J6 was "crawling with feds."

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  1. Surfer Joe

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    How does one source a brain fart?
     
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    Well you could be informed if you wish.
     
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    It's hard work being agent provocateurs.
     
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    I don't really care to hear all of the excuses for why the source isn't correct.

    I went through that with the Bible beaters and you're exactly the same.
     
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    And they still manage to mess up a steel ball with a plastic hammer.

    Federal bureau of incompetence.
     
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    Oh! Bless Charlie Kirk! Are his marbles still scattered throughout the QANON conspiracy sphere?
     
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    "it's a nice place you have here, be shame if something happened to it"

    republicans would defend a mob boss and say he was really just showing concern for the shop owner, everyone thinks it would be a shame if something bad happened
     
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    Well, except the ones where the Boogaloo Bois burnt down the police station
     
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    You mean BLM protesters?
     
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    Irony.
     
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    Speaking of worldview biases.... I'm not the one pretending that the Summer of Love never happened or that it was all false flag events when we all clearly saw riots all over the nation and who was clearly participating in them and what flags and banners they were carrying.
     
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    Did I say that? No! What I did point out was that not all the violence was down to one group.

    But Trump was in charge and there IS a well known “playbook” for dealing with riots - one Trump did NOT follow and indeed his actions escalated the violence

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52869563
     
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    You are intelligent enough to understand why pleading guilty does not necessarily show that person was actually guilty?

    Please say something like "It was obvious they committed the crime", or "There was very strong evidence they committed a crime, easily enough for conviction", but don't say "they pled guilty".

    You might not know this, but I'm also going to point out to you that a lot of those media sources can be dishonest and portray someone as "Right wing" when in reality it was obvious they were not, given the totality of all the available evidence and the full context.
    So I'm open to believing your article but will retain some amount of skepticism.
    Please use some common sense. Would someone who was Right wing want to set a police station on fire during a Black Lives Matter protest?
    This sounds more like crazy, like maybe some fringe group who holds some hybrid belief that doesn't fit in clearly with the Right.
     
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    Why would you plead guilty if you were not guilty? Plus the manifesto for the Boogaloo Bois is in line with what happened

    Don’t take MY word for it - check my link

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

    Oh! Sorry forgot!

    Laws don’t apply to the right - is that correct?
     
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    J6 was a Fed operation, while Trump did not commit incitement, it likes like the FBI may have.

    And now they want to criminalize protected speech and pretend it's a felony to protest a rigged election.

    Trump indictment threat to free speech. While those that hate the concept of speech protected criminalization by government are 'celebrating the charges, the implications for free speech are chilling. While' Crazy Jack 'Smith did not charge incitement or insurrection (or seditious conspiracy), commentators (and' Crazy Jack 'Smith) portrayed the case as holding Trump accountable for the actual riot in the Capitol. They are now shrugging off the conspicuous omission of those charges while attacking those of us with free speech concerns as apologists.'

    'The hatred for Trump is so all-encompassing that legal experts on the political left have ignored the chilling implications of this indictment. This complaint is based largely on statements that are protected under the First Amendment. It would eviscerate free speech and could allow the government to arrest those who are accused of spreading disinformation in elections.'

    Yes, that's what the constitution haters want.

    'In the 2012 United States v. Alvarez decision, the Supreme Court held 6-3 that it is unconstitutional to criminalize lies in a case involving a politician. The court warned such criminalization “would give government a broad censorial power unprecedented in this Court’s cases or in our constitutional tradition. The mere potential for the exercise of that power casts a chill, a chill the First Amendment cannot permit if free speech, thought, and discourse are to remain a foundation of our freedom.”'

    Crazy Jack and Bribed Biden are pretending that these constitutional rulings do not exist.

    'This indictment is reminiscent of the case against former Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell. His conviction on 11 corruption-related counts was unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court in 2016, with Chief Justice John Roberts writing that federal prosecutors relied on a “boundless” definition of actions that could trigger criminal charges against political leaders.'

    That's the way Crazy Jack rolls.
     
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    Yes of course.... Trump is responsible for the actions of the rioters. He went out there and held a gun to them and forced them to riot.

    The Democrat politicians who egg them on and stoked the rage..... They had nothing to do with it. It's all on the bad orange man
     
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    I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you, but have conveniently started a thread to provide an explanation to people like you.
    Pleading guilty does NOT mean that person is guilty

    (It sounds like in that story the person was guilty, so this is probably not really the issue here, but could be applicable to other stories likely to be brought up in this discussion)
     
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    In part

    If he had followed the “playbook” instead of stirring the pot it would not have lasted so long nor degenerated into violence. Trump was and is an incompetent and his handling of the pandemic made that very obvious
     
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    Sorry? You think engendering a racial war is an acceptable thing?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boogaloo_movement
     
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    Did you just mix up the Boogaloo Bois with BLM?
     
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    You are in Australia and probably only look at the progressive news outlets.

    In Portland, Oregon, a mob formed every night around the Federal courthouse every night for two months and tried to burn it down. They set up a few blocks in the city where they started “the summer of love” in a community they named “Chop.” There was extensive drug use and crime. Finally the authorities shut it down after someone was murdered.

    January 6 was one rotten incident. The summer of 2020 was one case of looting and destruction of property night after night in areas spread all over the United States. People were killed, including minorities, and property damage was in the billions. Some minority communities might never recover. Life was made worse for the vast majority of people because a comparatively small number of thugs were allowed to get away with it.

    They started burning and looting here in Florida, but the authorities cracked down on it fast. One jerk was caught on video tape throwing a firebomb into a store. He was tracked down and arrested. A police chief here warned potential rioters, “People here in Florida are armed with guns. If you go out to burn down someone’s house or business, expect to get shot.” The violence and destruction didn’t last long down here, unlike the progressives areas where the politicians thought it was “cool.”
     
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