A History of Racism Erased From U.S. Capital

Horseshit. I know several people that fly the rebel flag or have it tattooed on their body. It doesn’t have anything to do with “pride” for what these events stood for.

If you see a Nazi flag, is that “regional pride”?

 

I absolutely support these people openly and proudly identifying themselves. It’s why I loved the red hats so much.

Makes a potential threat easier to identify especially seeing the recent pride flag shooting.

 

I counter your anecdotal with my own, I know several people who fly it because of rebellion against big government and regional pride. Not one of them fly it due to racism or slavery.

The Nazi flag (along with the Confederate Flag) has nothing to do with regional pride. It has everything to do with race. The Virginia Battle Flag had everything to do with love of home, and nothing to do with race.

 

Google (along with other search engines), ostensibly, brings up results based on the most searched for inquiry related to what is asked for and what is most clicked on. Your point is irrelevant.

 

what ever it once meant, what people now think of it as is what it is

 

Justify it however you please
There numerous reasons why people fly these flags at protests and it isn’t because of “regional” pride.

How can someone from South Carolina have regional pride for Virginia? The implication is absurd.

 

sure...

 

And the people that fly it would know what it means to them far more than people who assume based on misconceptions, ignorance of history, and what they're told by people with agenda's.

 

No worries - soon, a new history regarding slavery in this country will become the curriculum for school children. So they won't even know who was depicted in the statues.

 

The thing about potential threats, aka people exercising their first amendment rights, is there's always a closet to hide in.

 

Pretty sure this won't be knocked down.

 

If you can see a threat there is no need to hide from it.

 

With your line of reasoning no one other than an American should fly the American Flag. Do Nazi's have to be German to fly the Nazi flag? Is that the case in reality? No, it isn't. People can take symbols and apply it to their own area/situation. As I have said previously, Robert E. Lee fought not for the Confederacy and slavery (again, he was against slavery), but for love of his home. People recognize this and as such use his flag as a symbol for regional pride, love of home. Just because its name is the "Northern Virginia Army Battle Flag" is irrelevant to what the symbolism is meant to the people that fly it. Love of Home. Regional Pride. Anti-Big Government. That is what the flag means to most people who fly it. What YOU think it means is also irrelevant to what the people that fly it believes it to mean.

 

I have nothing polite to respond with outside of disagreeing. You are entitled to your belief that people that have never been to Virginia are just expressing their love of the region and the flag has nothing to do with hate, “triggering” the libs, or racism and it is wholly wholesome!

I of course am also entitled to my own opinion about how completely absurd that sounds especially seeing that some of the people that fly this flag or have it on their body are my family members.

 

If you think that rainbow pistoli will save you, then it wasn't a threat to begin with.

 

Aww that’s just a cute badge I found online — I am more than prepared to take on the gravy seals should self defense be required. And btw, a threat doesn’t always mean it is violent, it’s odd your mind immediately went there.

Thanks for your concern though

 

I never said that they are expressing love for the region of Virginia. They are using the symbol as an expression for the love of the region that they are in. Again, does a Nazi have to be German to fly the Nazi flag? Does a person have to be American to fly the American flag? Did all these Chinese people in Hong Kong China ever live or even love America?



Nope. They're flying the American flag for the symbolism of love of Democracy.

What's funny about your argument is that it paints one group as a whole, and yet you've admitted that there are numerous reasons that people fly the flag. Yet you can only fixate on one reason and one reason only. I've never denied that there are those that use it as a symbol of racism. Indeed, I specifically stated that there are exceptions to every rule. But for the most part, for most people, its about love of region (home), and anti-big government. Not slavery. Not racism.

And yes, of course you are entitled to your own opinion. However, you're not entitled to other people's opinions. Yet you ignore other peoples own opinions on matters of what they believe and portray your own opinion as if it's the right and only one. I myself do not own that flag and would not fly one due to its association with the Confederacy which did support slavery. Yet I will never begrudge other people their own opinions of what the flag means to them. Nor will I portray that my opinion is the right and only one. And I certainly will never assume that someone that flies that flag is automatically a racist just because they fly that flag. You have already shown that you will and consider such people as "threats".

 

so true

 

No, but I'm OK with Confederate battle flags.

 

Give it a try if you're so inclined. It would fit right in with the Democratic Party whose policies seem aimed at destroying America.

 

Potential threats is the word I used.

I am sure there are a handful that view the flag as a celebration of Virginia, I never said otherwise. I just don’t believe that is the majority.

And a sizable portion of the US agrees with my position https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...erate-flag-as-a-racist-symbol-poll-finds/amp/

 

Again, its not about a celebration of Virginia. Its a symbol of love of home and anti-big government. Why do you keep ignoring that? How many times do I have to say it? Another example of you asserting your opinion as being the right and only one. I've given plenty of examples and asked you questions which shows your assertion here as false. Yet you still keep asserting it. Why? I think I know why.....but I want to hear what you'll actually say...

And yes, without looking at your link, I know how the majority of Americans, per a poll, believes that its a racist symbol. That does not mean that the majority of people that fly it use it as such.

And yeah, viewing them as "potential threats" is the same as just plain ole viewing them as "threats". You say Toe-May-Toe, I say Ta-Ma-Toe. If someone went around and said that they view black people as "potential threats" you'd be saying how wrong that was and how racist it was. Yet you have no problem doing the same to others who do not conform to your point of view.

 

It's cute you think two instance in which the perpetrators were convicted by a mostly why jury, Trumps a couple of actual lynching a week for which no one was ever punished

 

Should they remove any statues of Washington and Jefferson, since they each owned slaves?

 

I can't even guess what they might do when they next get their feelings hurt.