A store owner was killed over a Pride flag she flew in front of her California business

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  1. omni

    omni Well-Known Member

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    Nothing really points in that direction.
     
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    Several witnesses confirm the same story of events. Guy posts about anti-LGBT agenda. Not hard for the police to put 2+2 together.
     
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    I absolutely agree with that.
     
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    He has a Japanese surname...lol.
     
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    Witnesses claimed Michael Brown had his hands up and begging Darren Wilson not to shoot him, too.
     
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    So an Asian committing a murder means they are a supremacist? How do you come to that conclusion?
     
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    Witnesses who weren't vetted by the police and instead the media ran with a narrative without doing their due diligence. The witnesses in this case have been appropriately questioned by the police.
     
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    Nah, "hate speech" is an emotional reaction and term derived to attempt to limit free speech.

    You do realize that people in this country a FREE to hate other people for any number of reasons. Right?

    People are free to be racists, anti-gay, anti-religious, anti-whatever. That's a protected right. One persons emotional desires to be protected shouldn't not impeded on another rights to freedom of speech and protection.

    Right?
     
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    Which makes the reporting all over the news even MORE insidious. Now violence against the LGBT community doesn’t even have to be someone a part of the LGBT community? Hehe.

    Let’s not forget that much of this “violence” is drug and homeless related and isn’t evil white conservatives in the suburbs beating Trans people in supermarkets for no reason like the MSM wants you to believe.
     
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    This was real violence.
     
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    I think people are forgetting the victim doesn't have to identify as LGBT. If the perp thought she was part of the community that's all that matters.
     
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    I think it's funny people are trying to brush this off as not LGBT related because she wasn't LGBT.

    It's clear from witness statements this was LGBT related.
     
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    Yes. But the MSM is reporting it as violence against the LGBT community! Is it really? Or just more BS? I’m leaning towards BS because the perps photo hasn’t been released. EVERY TIME info is scarce it’s always the same conclusion. Like clockwork.
     
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    It’s not funny. It’s sad that we can’t trust the MSM to tell the truth anymore because they happily LIE constantly forcing us to be skeptical of the agenda they’re trying to push. And SO MANY false flags and FAKE hate crimes.
     
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    If allies are part of the LGBT community, then yes. It sure seems like the flag was a big part of what happened here.
     
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    What has the MSM lied about? The cops say it was LGBT related. Should they not tell you what the police are saying?
     
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    You mean the same cops who don’t arrest people for robbing stores? Was it MAGA country too? Was it a noose? Did he have his hands up and yell don’t shoot? Was he just walking home eating skittles? Was she just quietly sleeping in her bed when she was shot? Was he just trying to protect his kid in the back seat and drive home? Was he just jogging through a white neighborhood? Was his neck crushed? Was it mostly peaceful?

    Shouid I go on with all the lies we’re told? I’ll remain skeptical until more information is shown.
     
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    Spew all the hate speech you want..until threats and taking violent action on those threats.
    Exactly what this guy and many others did.
    Many times it's their paper trails that confirm it was a hate crime.
     
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    'Man who fatally shot woman for having a Pride flag is a far-right religious zealot and son of a cop'

    "The Lake Arrowhead shooter has been identified by the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department as 27-year-old Travis Ikeguchi. He was extremely active in the online right-wing ecosystem of hate in the United States, regularly posting about his far-right extremist beliefs on Gab and Twitter/X. He supported Donald Trump in 2016 but became far more devoted to a Christian nationalist worldview driven by antisemitic conspiracy theory culture.

    In a personal GoFundMe campaign from 2019, Ikeguchi talked about his estranged father being a police officer. Public records indicate that Ikeguchi's father was at one time a Florida Highway Patrol officer.

    Ikeguchi started attacking police departments online for making Pride posts on Twitter/X. In 2022, he shared a video on Gab about wanting to shoot police officers— which is what he died doing.[/div
     
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    No they’re not. My Christian friend who joins me for Passover is not a part of the Jewish community any more than a straight store owner flying a flag is a part of the LGBT community. Supporting a community does not make you a member. And the MSM at least so far is implying a “conservative” bigot shot a gay store owner simply over a flag. But they’re careful ATM trying to stay ambiguous while directing you right where to think. It may be true. But a white Jewish guy named Zimmerman didn’t shoot a cute little harmless 12 yr old walking home from 7-11 either. I see above more info now.

    Still a POS for shooting anyone over something so trivial.
     
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    If your Jewish friend were attacked for flying a Christian flag, that would be a different story. Think.
     
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    If my Christian friend was attacked for flying a Jewish flag, doesn’t happen, it’s still just an attack against a Christian person. It’s not a an attack on Jews or MY community. The multiple reports I saw on the news never said this was a straight woman. Never said the gun was not registered/illegally obtained. It’s all sketchy. Terrible event, but the framing is so manipulative.
     
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    If a Jewish person were killed for flying a Christain flag, you'd be blowing a gasket, dude. We both know it.
     
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    If a person attacked your friend because they thought he was Jewish even though he wasn't, it's still an attack on that community because the offender thought they were Jewish.

    If a black person attacks a white person who happens to actually be Hispanic, would it still be an attack on the white community?
     
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    The world is mental. Sometimes that falls on the left; sometimes on the right.
     

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