Ohio police release video of fatal shooting of pregnant Black woman

she was clearly turning the wheel to try and avoid him in the video, unlike the cop that intentionally ran over protestors with a deadly weapon and bragged about it

like I said, she was in the wrong, he could legally kill her if he wanted too, but he could of handled it better (as could she of, but she did not kill anyone he did)

 

"Alleged" shoplifter, and as it turns out looks like she was innocent, so the cop killed an innocent pregnant woman

 

I do not see standing in front of the car as the only solution to the problem. They could have let her drive off then follow her. Perhaps that would have had a better ending, or perhaps a worse ending. They could have just logged her plate number and arrest her at a later time, assuming the vehicle was clean. To argue the only option was to stand in front of the car then kill a mother and her unborn child for moving the car forward slowly seems silly to me. It was an unnecessary outcome for a simple shoplifting call. The woman was stupid for moving the car as was the cop for standing in front of it for such a minor offense. If the cop is a person I can respect then this will torment them for the rest of his life. Police need to be better trained in deescalation especially when responding to such a low level crime.

 

Why didn't they just shoot the tires. Now an innocent child is dead.

 

especially as standing in front of a running car would be the worst thing to do if one thought the driver really wanted to kill them

luckily the out of control car did not hit anyone after they killed the driver

 

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Exactly. Wouldn’t even be news if the driver was white. Just another idiot, otherwise

 

No one said that so stop.
Shoot and ask questions later is always the best recourse. This is America. We love our guns and have a right to use them.
If they couldn't stop the vehicle of the desperate, dangerous criminal it too bad they couldn't find a way to track the vehicle. You know? Some way to identify the vehicle to find out who owns it then burst into the home guns blazing rather then in a public place.

 

There is no way this is a justified shooting. To even draw you gun is ridiculous.

 

Lets not pretend that somebody so fundamentally stupid and with a such fundamental disregard for their own life is worth being upset about. She won a Darwin award. I suppose she was the one of the unicorn black women who never had a talk with her parents about what to do when the cops pull you over.

Not nearly as ridiculous as resisting arrest by attempting to drive away from an arresting officer. If you don't value your own life not to do something this idiotic and dangerous, why should anybody else?

 

Police were called for alleged shoplifting. You think that's a good reason to draw you weapon? What's the thought process of standing in front of the vehicle?
Regardless, it's ridiculous to be shooting someone for these reasons. Fleeing from an officer for shoplifting is not a reason to be shot.

 

Well gee, if only she had shown the cops that. Her behavior was not that of an innocent person. In fact, it's crazy even for a guilty person.

 

Seriously? I don't think that standard operating procedure is to let suspects go. I think it's to apprehend them. The entire outcome was tragic and unnecessary, but only because of the suspect's actions, not the police.


If you can tell me how the situation could have been resolved by "deescalation" I would like to hear it.

 

In some conservative states, had she survived, she might be charged with felony murder of her unborn baby, since it was her illegal actions that caused the officer to have to shoot her, and so she was indirectly responsible for the death of the baby.

see thread: Woman charged under felony murder doctrine for starting fight that led to her baby being shot

 

I don't know how to translate that into a course of action that leads with the police apprehending the suspect. Please explain what exactly you think the police should have done.

 

Why do we make such a big deal about the woman being pregnant?

Shooting out a tire is a lot like how they show police shooting a weapon out of someones hand in television and the movies. Obscenely difficult at best

 

Because the baby could have been harmed.

 

First, don't stand in front of the vehicle.
Second, get the license number
Third, she can't outrun the radio.
Shoplifting.......she was shot for shoplifting.

 

If you shoplift and are trying to run away, police will follow you and arrest you.

What do you expect to happen in that situation?

Yes it's true, any confrontation could easily escalate and someone could get hurt.

Are you saying that if a police officer stands in front of someone's car to try to prevent them from getting away, and the suspect tries to ram them with the car because they're in the way, the officer should not be allowed to shoot?

That's really what this situation comes down to.

 

To be clear, you are saying that unless she surrenders willingly and cooperates, let her go.


That's pretty much what I thought. You don't really have a course of action.

 

No. Legally it would be the mother's fault that her child was killed because she instigated the crime that created the situation.

 

That's pretty much what Progressives seem to be saying, if we apply a logical interpretation and conclusion to what they say.

 

related thread: Body camera footage of controversial fatal police shooting in Ohio released to the public (posted in Race Relations by Joe knows)

 

How is that the shooters responsibiity?

 

doesn't change the facts, if she did not steal any alcohol as she was accused of, she was innocent of shoplifting

 

Who is saying to let her go? They could shoot the tires. Radio for back-up and follow the car.

Officers need to be more around women of child-bearing age. Now an innocent soul is lost forever.