Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

There's NO EVIDENCE Trudeau knew Hunka fought for Germsny.

Correct, only the MPs and PM thought he fought against Germany.

Only defies your logic. When you see the uproar and how fast the Speaker resigned, it defies logic the Prime Minister knew Hunka fought with the Germans.

You're either gaslighting the forum or unwittingly repeating propaganda you heard.

 

Ask and you shall receive:

"There are indisputable heroes. Stepan Bandera is a hero for a certain part of Ukrainians, and this is a normal and cool thing." Zelensky said

https://www.unian.info/politics/105...ans-should-also-praise-modern-day-heroes.html

 

There's no such thing as "dual citizenship."

I guess this applies to Ted Cruz, Max Baucus, Warren Beatty, Madonna, Michael J. Fox, Walter Chrysler, Stephen Curry, Walt Disney, Will Durant, Thomas Edison, Freddie Freeman, Kenny G, Robert Goulet, Gene Hackman, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Angelina Jolie, Shirley MacLaine, Elon Musk, Kiefer Sutherland, Mark Wahlberg, Neil Young, Dan Aykroyd, Alexander Graham Bell, Jim Carrey, Leonard Cohen, Jennifer Granholm, Peter Jennings, John Kay, Louis B. Mayer, Joni Mitchell, and on and on.

I mistakenly thought you would understand you were in error and would correct your thinking. My bad.

 

Russia/Ukraine—the ultimate false dichotomy of our time.

 

Yeah, that's what they thought after hearing this:

Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old, received a standing ovation in Canada's Parliament after Rota called him a hero, who “fought for Ukrainian independence against the Russian aggressors then, and continues to support the troops today”.

Rota made the remarks on Friday, September 22. He apologized on September 24 only after an uproar from Jewish groups. He resigned on September 26.

You're still clinging to the notion that Hunka got a private meeting with both Trudeau and Zelensky without them knowing his background. THAT defies logic.

So quoting from the Nuremberg Commission is gaslighting? LOL

 

Nice try. Zelensky was not praising him. Also, he was not talking about an obscure soldier.

 

Four days from gaffe to political oblivion. Not fast enough for you?

Do you actually think a Canadian PM would knowing praise a Nazi? You must know next to nothing about Canada.

You're abusing the NC, too.

 

Hey, @ LangleyMan : you missed something.

Yeah, that's what they thought after hearing this:

Yaroslav Hunka, a 98-year-old, received a standing ovation in Canada's Parliament after Rota called him a hero, who “fought for Ukrainian independence against the Russian aggressors then, and continues to support the troops today”.

LangleyMan, you should run for a seat in Parliament. You'd fit right in!

 

There were no "Russian aggressors" then! Then there were multinational Soviet troops liberating their country - USSR. And there were 20-25% Ukrainians in them. And Gunko was on the side of the enemy, this is collaboration. Of course you can say that he fought against communism, that he had other political views. OK, then why weren't Trump supporters storming the Capitol honored in the Canadian Parliament? They also have different views.

 

There is one nuance. Galicia, from where Hunka comes from, became part of USSR in 1939., after the soviet occupation of Poland together with soviet friends - Nazis. But for Russians It's ok to be friends with Nazis, while they together can kill other eastern Europeans. Nazis are not good only when they attack Russia itself.

 

It's quite ironic, that the word pogrom(погром), who become a word for violent actions against Jews in English, is a Russian word.

 

You call this occupation, and if you recall the history, Galicia was part of Russia, the Russian Empire, which was captured by Polish troops in 1920 (separatists from the point of view of the rest of the country). And that is why in 1939 there was not an occupation, but the return of the ancestral Russian territories.

And please stop talking about friendship with the Nazis! Other countries also had economic ties with Germany until the relationship deteriorated. And "neutral" Sweden generally supplied metal to Germany throughout the war until 1945!

 

You even have a little knowledge of Your own countries' history. Galicia never ever was part of the Russian Empire, it was part of AusustroHungary. But who gives a damn about facts like this, when you want to justify aggressive actions against other countries together with Nazis, right?

Why I should stop doing it, when in September 1939 the USSR and Nazi Germany concluded FRIENDSHIP pact? Nazi Germany was not Sweden's friend, Nazi Germany was USSR's friend.

 

He even wore a brown shirt and jacket, he's such a troll.

 

There are too many Russian trolls on this forum.


House Republicans

 

I agree. The people defending cheers for Nazis are doing so to create conflict.

 

Your first sentence is a falsehood.

 

Galicia is the historical territory of the Galician Principality of Russia, and later the Galician—Volyn Principality with its capital, first in Galicia, and later in Lviv.


Here Galicia is called "Russia"

The Congress of Vienna in 1815 transferred Western Galicia to the Kingdom of Poland, which became part of the Russian Empire, and the Ternopil district was returned to Austria;

Wiki

 

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Wow....and a few hundred years earlier bears and raccoons were copulating where so called "Moscow" stands today.

Roughly the same time where so called "RuZZians" were fetching water for Batu Khan ...the distant ancestors of vatniks today.

 

Holding citizenships of two countries is not "dual citizenship."

The United States doesn't care if you hold other citizenships, only what you do regarding your rights and duties as an American. This is when and under what circumstances you can lose or renounce American citizenship:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality.html

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title8/pdf/USCODE-2011-title8-chap12-subchapIII-partIII-sec1481.pdf

I was born in the U.S. to American citizen parents, added Canadian citizenship in 1974, and could end up with Irish citizenship because my grandmother was Irish.

 

I didn't go and research the list but if you are saying everyone on your list has Canadian and American citizenship, then yes, they're Canadian.

However I understand Cruz cancelled his, so he only has American citizenship, so he's an American citizen. Not however, a natural born one.

 

Your OP packed with lies calls into question your judgment (or motivation) is misrepresenting what happened in the Canadian parliament.

The Canadian Speaker of their parliament resigned in disgrace. Canadians aren't defending their MPs unknowing applause for someone who fought for Germany in WW2.

You know nothing of Canada if you think they support fascism. I suspect you know your posts misrepresent Canada and Canadians so you can paint Zelenskyy as a fascist. In fact, Putin is the fascist waging a war of aggression in the Ukraine.

Do you support the Russian military action in the Ukraine?

 

Galician—Volyn Principality and the Russian Empire are two totally different things. But of course, Russian Nazis don't give a **** about it when it comes to justifying invasion in other countries.

And?

 

My daughter was born in Canada to two born-in-USA parents. From the moment of her birth, she had citizenships in Canada and the United States. She couldn't renounce either citizenship until she became an adult. My wife and I could never have renounced our daughter's citizenships.

So, you'd take away our daughter's American citizenship?

Some of the people on the list have (or had) multiple birthright citizenships, others were naturalized in one or both countries. Some have renounced their citizenships like Cruz says he has, but most probably have retained both.

If you are a citizen at birth as was my daughter born in Canada was, you are naturally born.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/natural_born_citizen