Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

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  1. CornPop

    CornPop Well-Known Member

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    This is something a Russian troll farm would say about Nazi cheers to spread discord. It's a problem on internet forums and social media. This is their operating procedure. Social media entities may even start deleting posts like yours for public safety.
     
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  2. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    It looks like you only read the first sentence of your link and not the second. As for your daughter, and other minors, they can choose when they are of age. Or not, in which case they belong to the other foreign country as far as I'm concerned. Having two national identities and two national loyalties makes zero sense.
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Ted Cruz "says" he renounced his Canadian citizenship?....that leaves it wide open to interpretation.

    Politicians say lots of things....doesn't mean he/she abides by it.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

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    You're still trying to sell the Russian propaganda that Canadians are fascists?
    It is when you use it to condemn an unidentified unit member for war crimes.

    Your posts suggest you support Putin's war of aggression against the Ukraine. I'm suspicious you're trashing Canada to support a Russian Big Lie the Ukrainians are fascists and this guy..

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    … is anything other than a fascist himself.
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Why should she have to pay the $3k ransom to this country if she decided to renounce her U.S. citizenship? This to keep people like you happy? Why can't she do nothing?
    Who says she has to be loyal to the United States? She didn't ask for us to decide she's an American.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    I think your posts are fashioned to support Putin's Big Lie that he's fighting Ukrainian fascists.
     
  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm sure there is a paper trail. If you are that interested I'm sure you could check it out.
     
  8. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Exactly my point! Thank you!
     
  9. CornPop

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    I've noticed you use "Big Lie" / Nazi vernacular on this forum quite often. This is right out of the Nazi propaganda playbook. And now all these strange defenses in this thread. Hmmm.
     
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  10. LangleyMan

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    "Lyin' Ted?" Unless he makes the paperwork from Canada available, we have no way of knowing if he really renounced.
     
  11. LangleyMan

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    You still haven't said you support Putin's attack on the Ukraine.

    Your seeder post filled with lies about Canada and Canadians calls into question your motivation. My guess is you're trying to support Putin's Big Lie that he's defending Russia against fascists.
     
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    But I thought you didn't care?
     
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    True....unless Ted Cruz produces the paperwork stating that he's 100% renounced his Canadian citizenship....it's wide open to speculation.

    I suspect he won't.
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    I don't care, but if I did...
     
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    He may have renounced, but Trump would say whatever he produced is fake.
     
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    This is interesting. I checked this out and found your last paragraph is correct. When I heard this story, I just assumed Canada just really didn't understand WWII and that someone fighting "against Russia" was fighting "for the Nazis." Since it's difficult to believe Zelenskyy didn't know, we must assume he's ok with Nazis, so long as they were fighting "against Russia."
     
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    Fascists? No. Mindless lemmings? Absolutely!!!

    That's exactly what the Nuremberg Commission did!! All members were considered to be part of a criminal unit, whether identified or not, and deemed guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    In my first reply to you, I said that pointing out that you didn't know what you're talking about wouldn't stop you. Sure enough, you keep doubling down. Your obtusity has gotten boring. I'm done with you.
     
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  18. CornPop

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    That's because I don't. And I also don't use Nazi propaganda. Russian troll farm workers do though.
     
  19. LangleyMan

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    Canadian has more than a million Ukrainian immigrants. They fought Nazis for more than two years while we sat on the sidelines. They know how Stalin collectivized agriculture and left millions of starving Ukrainians. But they also know how Ukrainians fought the Germans.

    Canadians weren't happy when they realized Hunka fought for Germany.
    The Speaker, forced out in disgrace, says he was solely responsible for Hunka.
     
  20. LangleyMan

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    Hunka and other enlisted men were not tried as individuals.
    Ukrainians have animus toward Russians and Germans. I assume you know why.

    Your smug assurance is unjustified to the extent I wonder about your intentions when you portray Canadians as pro-Nazi, claim they were aware Hunka was a 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) volunteer, and applauded him for service with the Germans. Most were applauding on cue, unaware of just who was being thanked for his WW2 service.
    We in Canada and the United States don't jail people for war crimes unless they are deemed personally responsible.

    You need to stop posting falsehoods about Canadians if you want to experience less of me.
     
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    Putin's little pal? You mean the family and president in the whitehouse who he bribed? Biden? You seem to be unwilling to see the truth.
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    Well, well... it took you long enough to condemn (sort of) Russian aggression. :roll:
    Do you supply decoder rings for your posts?
     
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    I think so. Like Obama before him, Trump did nothing to challenge Putin's aggression in the Ukraine. Worse still, he cozied up to Putin.
    Putin bribed Biden? I guess he didn't pay on time because Biden is wrecking his economy and military. NATO is now a solid wall from the Arctic to the Black Sea.
    What truth? That Trump did the equivalent of Hillary's red button?

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  24. CornPop

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    I'm not required to respond to your asinine and baseless assertions. I'm not the one using Nazi propaganda in this thread and elsewhere on the forum. From my experience, the people who use Nazi propaganda tend to be the ones who support dictatorships who invade other countries. It's not a good look, you should probably stop using debate tactics and language that come straight from the Nazi manual. When you can manage to do that, people might start taking your accusations seriously and actually take the time to respond to them more quickly.
     
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  25. CornPop

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    Trump's policies actually targeted and harmed Russia, while Obama/Biden/Clinton largely sat back and let them do what they wanted. This is probably why you hate Trump and pretend the two administrations were similar. A Russian troll farm would express a similar opinion. This is the false narrative they want to spread on the internet.
     
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