Canada’s house speaker apologises after praising Ukrainian veteran of Nazi unit

Of course not. You can continue looking like a Putin apologist.

Does "Nazi propaganda" refer to statements made 75+ years ago?

That's an asinine claim torn, perhaps, from Trump's debate manual.

You're getting torn a new one because you don't understand Canada, Canadians, or the nuances of Ukrainian history understood by many Canadians having been schooled by more than 4% of the entire population of Canada.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-28-0001/2022004/article/00003-eng.htm#

By contrast, we have about the same number of Ukrainians for 0.3% of our population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Americans#:~:text=Ukrainian%20Americans%20(Ukrainian%3A%20Українські%20американці,0.3%25%20of%20the%20American%20population.

I think you're going to take your ball and run home.

 

I agree Obama and Bush let Trump have his way, but so did Trump. Biden as VP was a spear carrier, not a decider.

Fact not in evidence. I dislike Trump because he's a con artist who outright cheats people in business, damaged the country as President, and tried to steal in 2020 election.

They were similar in how weak they were in the face of Putin's aggression in Georgia, the Ukraine, etc.

I rather doubt a Russian troll would ever agree with my view that Bush, Obama and Trump were weak.

Uh huh. They're afraid of Trump and would rather see another four years of Biden or his successor.

 

No. It refers to statements you've made in this thread and elsewhere on this forum as has already been told to you. You do realize that you've used the exact phrases/terms coined by the Nazi's chief propagandists to argue your point in this thread, right? RIGHT?! I assume you do. The idea that you're accusing others of being Russian trolls is ironic considering in a thread about praising a Nazi as a hero you rush to the defense by using Nazi propaganda. Therefore, your attacks on others are dismissed. Let me know when you figure out what Nazi terms you've used. When you can do that we can have an education session about why spreading Nazi propaganda is wrong and why praising a Nazi is wrong. Until then it seems as if I'm not discussing something with someone in good faith. The fact that you're using Nazi propaganda in THIS thread, among all threads, is hilarious. Your use of such propaganda elsewhere on this forum is par for the course, a handful of liberals have done that. But this thread about a Nazi just proves you're no longer hiding it.

 

You're surely desperate to try to deflect this aren't you....usually happens when one loses the narrative.

 

Yeah, when people don't have a response to the use of Nazi propaganda in a thread about praising a Nazi, they would likely want to pretend it's the other side "losing the narrative." Do you know why this user would use terms coined by Nazi propagandists to attack those they disagree with in this thread? Ignorance is the best-case scenario. But, the hilarity of it deems pointing out.

 

No ...it's not the user....it's mostly certain individuals or "consortium" as I like to call it that use the term "NAZI" quite significantly here ...just like this thread suggests.

The optics are crappy....but it's a storm in the teacup certain posters try to exploit....like you.

This dude....IMO....made a $hit choice....but he's an inconsequential player.

 

1. The creation of foreign SS units to fight against communism; was dopne with with French, Flemish, Walloon, Dutch, Latvian, Estonian, Croatian, Ukrainian and Belarusian units, among others. As a Jew I do not need you to tell me who massacred my relatives, thanks.

2. The mistake made can be tied to questionable decisions as to how Canada immigration policies work and how certain individuals were able to get into Canada after WW2.

There was no conspiracy. This was a series of ignorant mistakes.

You want to create a conspiracy that Canada supports Nazis to distract from what Russia is doing in Ukraine. That much is blatant and its lame.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fr...ay-parliament-political-controversy-1.6983517

No one is saying Hunka is a nice man. What you are doing though is exploiting his past to try piss on Ukrainians who are fighting Russia's invasion.

 

I suppose you also don't need me to tell you that these Waffen SS divisions didn't limit their activities to fighting communists. Fighting communists is not why the Nuremberg Commission found the entire SS to be a criminal organization.

While Canada's policy of allowing SS veterans in after WW2 certainly needs a fresh look, this "mistake", as you call it, should never have happened. As I already have said, no random guy gets a private meeting with 2 heads of state without first being vetted. This goes beyond a "mistake". It's a complete lapse of judgement.

This "mistake" stands on its own and would be just as reprehensible even if everything was peachy-keen between Russia and Ukraine.

What's really lame is trying to deflect from it by flailing about with this Russia! Russia! Russia! trope.

 

No convictions....woogsie.

No jail times....woogsie

No executions....woogsie.

Focus on the war crimes like Bucha....woogsie.

You and the "cheer team" are beating a dead horse.

 

Hey, I was done with this thread, but you and your cohorts keep quoting me and I get notices. Y'all are the ones desperate to divert attention and offer lame excuses for Canada's "mistake".

 

You need to get a clue.

Please.

I explained that the Speaker was forced out in disgrace, that Canadians don't like fascists, that the MPs applauded on cue, unaware Hunka fought for Germany, and that there is ongoing fallout for Trudeau. You continue attacking Canada and Canadians even though you either don't know much about Canada or you're attacking Canada to augment a claim the Ukrainians are fascists.

I told you Canadians don't like Nazis, fought the Germans for more than two years while we weren't involved, and forced the Speaker to quit within four days. The idea I was suggesting it's okay to praise Nazis is a flat stupid. No one with any sense believes you.

You're gaslighting the forum.

It's complete ignorance of politics to say liberals are fascists.

 

Yeah...it's a "mistake"....optics look bad, speaker apologized and resigned.

Certain members can't see that this Hunko was an inconsequential player.

 

I bet the answer is simple - Hunka is not a war criminal and not a Nazi, so the immigration service let him in.

 

Correct. Give me a clue about why you've introduced terms of Nazi propaganda in THIS thread while talking about Russian troll farms. It seems ironically non-coincidental.

 

An absurd claim, but not unexpected from someone so confused he thinks liberals are fascists.

P.S. I'm not a liberal.

P.P.S. Your claim Canadians are Nazis makes you look absurd.

 

The Galician-Volyn Principality is not Russia, but a Russian principality. And it's definitely not Austrian or Hungarian. And Galicia WAS PART of the Russian Empire.

 

Here's what happened to the journalist who helped expose the Ukrainian Bandera Nazi:

British independent journalist Warren Thornton was arrested after he was the first to criticize the ovation of a Ukrainian veteran of Nazism in the Canadian parliament. Warren Thornton was presenting the release of his podcast "The Real Truth" on Sunday when the police suddenly appeared at his door. Thornton was arrested and taken to Bristol police Station, many kilometers from his home. There he was accused of spreading "disinformation" and "fakes" on social networks and issued a warning, watched his videos, and then released.

 

I will say one for you incredible thing - when there was Galicia principality, there was no such nation as Russians at all.
And I said again, Galicia was part of Austria-Hungary, then it became part of Poland. These are FACTS. You just lied, that Poland took Galicia from Russia in 1920. I should remind your own words?

 

The Ukrainian people were even more absent then! So who are the occupiers?

Poland seized western Ukraine, western Belarus and part of Lithuania together with Vilnius in 1920. And then, under an agreement with Hitler, she seized part of the Czech Republic and began planning to seize Danzig. And Galicia was captured even earlier: when the Bolsheviks seized power in Russia, the collapse began, the nationalists in Poland came to power and seized Galicia.

 

USSR, who occupied Poland together with their friend Nazi Germany.

Man, you have a problem to understand simple sentences in English. Again, Galicia was not part of the Russian Empire. Really, I have to repeat 4 times for you to understand?

 

No - the occupier Poland occupied the Russian lands in 1918-1920

So I do not claim that Galicia was in the Russian Empire. Read carefully: the Poles have captured Galicia! From Austria-Hungary, which had collapsed by that time. But mostly Russian-speaking people lived there. What should Stalin have done in 1939? Restore the Austro-Hungarian Empire? Or would you prefer Galicia to be given to Hitler in 1939?

 

No, Ukrainian and Polish-speaking citizens of Poland lived there. Is funny how similar "argumentation" of Nazis and Russian imperialists are.Hitler also "saved", Germans in Czechoslovakia and Poland. Here is totally the same mindset. The only exception, then Russian Nazis do not recognize Ukrainians as a nation at all.
Stalin should not have divided other countries together with his friends' Nazis.

 

Russian Russians, Poles, and Ukrainians (who are essentially poliachennye Russians) lived there. Stalin had the same right to these lands as Poland. What should have been done was to say: you are Poles, this is your land, the USSR will not introduce troops there... and what's next? Well, then the Germans would have come there. Then would the Ukrainian nationalists have called them occupiers and fought the Germans?

Don't make me laugh, these are the fighters against fascism!

 

As I said - Russian Nazis do net even recognize Ukrainians as a nation, It's something like subrussians to them

Because you said so?

Of course, the Germans would not invade Poland without agreement with the soviets. And of course, Ukrainian nationalists would fight the Germans, Bandera spent 3 years in a German concentration camp, for example. Millions of Ukrainians fought in Red Army. Just you totally don't know the history of Ukraine, even after 4 times repeat you still did not get, that Galicia has noting common with the Russian Empire or USSR.

 

So...by your philosophy...Koba Gruzin had rights to Eastern Poland(Warsaw included), because moscalem considered everything East of Vistula "Russian territory".....I've known a few "RuZZkis" claim that Polakeh are just "stale Russians".

East Germans must've been Russians too by your logic?

Strange logic these vatniks have....don't you think?

Love the Nazi pics ...Vitaliy....you "Batu Khans" never disappoint.