WATCH: Rashida Tlaib Refuses To Condemn Beheadings Of Israeli Babies When Confronted By Media

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  1. Jack Hays

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    I spent an entire career with this matter firmly in view. The "other side" forfeited legitimacy long ago.
     
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    The enemy is killing babies meme existed as far back as WW1. In today's instant verification culture, it is more difficult to pull off because there are thousands of autistic people who will fact check the hell out of you.

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    Along with their children, and their children’s children, who have no idea why they are hated and why they hate?

    An effort has to be made to break the cycle, or it will never end. Both sides attempt to dehumanize the other, trying to make it easier for the killing to continue. Leaders have to lead the way by example, showing the other side are not inhuman animals, but people that love and seek the best for their families whether they are Muslim, Jew, Christian, or whatever.

    If legitimacy has been forfeited in the views of one side, then they need to gift legitiamacy back to them, until peace is achieved.
     
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    Truly disgusting projection by the right. Objectively.
     
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    False. It's truly a disgusting act by the left. Supporting such nonsense.
     
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  6. Josh77

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    How about we oppose the killing of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians? This shouldn't be a left-right issue, it should be a human rights issue. Both sides need to stop trying to score points on the death of innocents, and work to bring a lasting peace that immediately safeguards civilians on both sides.
     
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    Isreal isn't trying to score points by killing civilians. That misrepresentation is foolish. Hamas literally did though.
     
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    You might want to tell them that. The Hamas attack, which was horrific and I fully condemn, killed about 1,300 and wounded about 3,400
    So far, the Israeli response, which I also condemn from how over the top and irresponsible it has been, has killed over 2,300 Palestinians, and wounded over 9,000, and will only get worse in the coming days.

    I am all for Israel defending itself. Their self defense during the Yom Kippur war and 6 day war was phenomenal. But this has already gone too far, and their reprisal operation has just begun. Saner minds need to take charge and de-escalate the situation.
     
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    It has been appropriate and reasonable. Hamas hide behind civilians and thus destroying them is impossible without civilian casualty.

    Hamas needs to be destroyed completely.
     
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    Soooo... kill hamas because they kill civilians by killing more civilians? Do you not see something wrong with that equation?
     
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    Kill hamas, while not specifically targeting civilians. That is the difference. It's the best case scenario.

    Hamas targeted civilians specifically. And yet the left defends them.
     
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    That makes zero difference to the families who lose their loved ones. That is how you spawn another generation of extremists, ensure groups like Hamas stay in power, and ensure the cycle of violence continues. Your "solution" of blasting Hamas and killing civilians, but excusing it because "Oh, well, we didn't MEAN too", is no solution at all.

    As we speak, the entire muslim world is uniting against Israel. The course of action you are advocating is going to eventually cost the lives of American servicemen for another useless war.

    An equitable political solution is the only way to end this crisis.
     
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    It's worthy of full blast Russian disinformation praise this thread, innit.

    The OP presents an amazing piece of disinformation, wherein one congresswoman, born of Palestinian parents, ignores the pathetic efforts of one reporter attempting to shame her and her known sympathies for Palestinians with such an over-the-top attempt at what? Sure didn't look to me like this "reporter" was interested in even allowing the congresswoman an opportunity to speak.

    It is disappointing when Talon gets into this partisan hack mode. Knowing the thread will devolve into a whole bunch of lame attempts by members of his tribe to pile on the "libs" and the "lefties".

    There are three folks listed as Muslims holding incumbent seats in the House, and none in the Senate.

    There are nine Jewish Senators, all of whom are Ds except for Bernie, and he might as well be a D.

    And we have 26 Jewish members of the House, all of whom are also Ds except for one, Max Miller repping OH-07.

    Some members point out that the current front runner for the R nomination for President praised Hezbollah as being smart and condemned Netanyahu as being dumb, only to be told that this thread isn't about Trump. Rs seemingly still haven't figured out that for them, everything is about Trump, just as it is for him.

    All those lib leftie Jew congress critters are anti-semites, by the R pretzel logic being dumped upon us all, yet again, here at PF. Talk about flipping the narrative Russian disinformation style, we are now asked to believe that all of the white nationalist support for Trump and hatred of Jews is a leftist phenomena. Please...
     
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    It doesn't matter what they feel about losing their families. As tragic as that is the difference between targeting civilians like hamas did and destroying hamas while not specifically targeting civilians matters.

    The next generation of extremists is already in the making as they are being taught by hamas.

    This is why hamas needs to be destroyed. And yes, this is a solution. It's the only viable solution as destroying Hamas with no civilians casualties is impossible. They made it impossible.

    The entire Muslim world can unite if they want. They are weak. That's their choice. Isreal should do everything it can to defend itself and destroy its enemies. And if it becomes necessary we will help.
     
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    I stated it was a zionistic dirty lie they got beheaded. And I am right.
    I am clueless why you're responding to me, making it seem you're disputing it.
     
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    It was exactly as brutal as described.
     
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    Armageddon is a christian belief, not a islamic belief.

    ...
    According to the Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Christian Bible, Armageddon
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armageddon
     
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    I gave 2 sources it did not happen.
    And so it's a Zionistic lie.
     
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    Those 2 sources you gave, simply gave an opinion. That is it.
     
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    Incorrect. You are projecting there.
     
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    Yikes, eclipses and earthquakes mentioned.
    Eclipse yesterday another one on Oct 28,
    Afghanistan 2 earthquakes
    ????

    'Signs of the Islamic End Times'

    cont
    https://www.zwemercenter.com/signs-of-the-islamic-end-times/


    'End Times in Islam: 6 Things You Should Know'
    Dr. Warren Larson

    An ancient prophecy quotes Muhammad as saying Dabiq (near Aleppo in Syria) will be where Islam defeats Christendom. Groups like ISIS link the end times in Islam to their territorial ambitions.'

    cont
    https://www.zwemercenter.com/guide/islamic-apocalypse-6-things-you-should-know/
     
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    End times or Armageddon pretty much has been happening for 2000 yrs.
    Since it was invented.

    Likely all religions will believe in some sort of end times. Fear is a big motivator in convincing people to toe the line.
     
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    or maybe you are just...... wrong.

    $6 billion murders a lot of innocent babies. throw in 6 Iranian returned also....
    warning graphic images
    the Prime Minister of Israel... Benjamin Netanyahu
    https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status/1712471782303867144

    Federal judge concluded Biden funding terrorism. There needs to be a full scale investigation into the Biden regime’s role in this war.
    Judge lets lawsuit claiming Biden admin knew US funds were aiding Palestinian terrorists move forward
    America First Legal (AFL) first filed the lawsuit in 2022, alleging that President Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken resumed payments to the Palestinian Authority (PA) that former President Trump ended in order to be in compliance with the Taylor Force Act — a federal law that prohibits the government from sending American taxpayer dollars to the PA until it stops supporting terrorism.
    https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1713278099297562762

    https://aflegal.org/america-first-l...sidizing-terrorism-with-american-tax-dollars/

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    That's true. That's why the left uses it so often.
     
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    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...idens-claim-he-saw-children-beheaded-by-hamas
    White House walks back Biden’s claim he saw children beheaded by Hamas
    US president spokesperson says comments were based on news reports and claims of Israeli officials.

    The Israeli army has said that it cannot confirm the claims

    Social media platforms such as Facebook, X and TikTok have been swamped with fake news on the Israel-Hamas war, according to an Al Jazeera investigation.

    So bye bye twitter claims.
    Those are Zionistic lies.
     

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