Let's move the State of Israel

Let's be real, the Israelis are the last European colonial outpost that survives in Africa.

 

Hey man, can I bum a smoke?

 

It's my understanding that the people themselves are Arabs from all over the middle east who migrated to the region at the turn of the last century to work, and stayed. They aren't Palestinians.

 

Curious, given your passionate posts here about your faith, how much of your faith calls upon you to long for a final battle between good and evil? And, if so, the location of it, is it in Israel?

 

Maybe they aren't palestinians but they're Arabs on a strip of land that borders Arabia and Africa. Unlike the Israelis who are europeans (colonialists by definition). Thus the palestinians/arabs understand the customs and traditions in order to fit in.

On the news today they showed an Israeli town with women walking down the street in hot pants with tattoos all over their legs. Not exactly the traditional dress huh??

 

Ah, the battle of good and evil, black versus white, the good ole days....

 

99% of that Post breaches the Rules here in that it addresses me and not the subject, but your secret is safe, I'll not go crying to Mummy.

I don't give a flying **** about a 'Jewish' State. No-one should. You can stuff religion right up yer clacker. I am not referring to people per se either. I am moving a State, get it?

 

Life has become so much more interesting in the last several hundred years it's a wonder religion survives in any form...

 

Sounds like you're saying that Arabs are bigots. Anyway, they should have thought about that before they tried to conquer Europe and make it Arab. They lost and lost their own land. So after WW2 it was all divvied back to the surrounding Arab nations by the Europeans, with Jews getting their ancient homeland back. It was the Allies to do with as they wish. So thank Turkey for Israel.

 

I don't long for that as do others. In fact, I'm astonished at the degradation in society, as if the world is walking right into prophecy with their eyes closed. I'd sooner see people and nations repent and forego calamity, that God might find us somewhat at peace should he return. For me, the struggle is within my own soul.

 

Israel was not "Plunked" anywhere by the UN. Yes, the Belfour agreement did call for the establishment of a Jewish homeland, but the British reneged on the agreement in the final draft of the treaty ending the British Mandate by placing Israel under Transjordan rule. (That point is important in deciding whether Israel is an occupying or sovereign nation.) The day after the treaty ending the British Mandate (which Israel was not a signer of), Israel declared its independence. As soon as that happened, they were invaded by no less than seven Arab Armies. (Another key point) The Israel/Transjordan Armistice ended the war, and ceded all lands currently possessed by Israel (including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank to Israel) to Israel. That Armistice makes Israel a sovereign nation, and the Gaza Strip and the West Bank Israeli sovereign lands. That is the only points that matter under International Law.

 

You use this forum and your words to insult Jews because they live in Israel and you want to complain about making a post personal? Your entire premise is to attack Jews personally and mock where they are born, fled to and the attacks they are under and you want to pose as a victim of my words?

You won't cry to Mummy but you sure as hell just did in your response to me. Your response and your premise ridicule people under attack and that makes your words both personal and cowardly.

To ridicule a people's home when they are under attack is as low as it gets and you paint yourself as a victim of my challenge to those cowardly words. Its your words Bush I challenge not you-your words as you would say I do not give a damn about you just the poisonous words.

 

I have followed his posts a long time. I consider him someone who has made it clear he does not want anyone to die needlessly and understands the battle you speak of is an internal one. I do try read his opinions. They are non judgemental so I can learn from them and lament with him. Instead of trying to slot the man in a specific slot join him in the desert. You will see where he has resided some can call it heaven, hell, purgatory, but what ever name you give it as a state, its a state of mind as much as it is a geographic location you might want him to locate for you.

This thing you might call hell and want us all to agree with you on, its not hard to find. Wherever you see someone relying on heir cell phone these days to trace their steps, you will find it. No GPS needed.

 

Thinking about false narratives and revisionist history is not a legitimate goal!

 

Have you bothered to ask yourself where the additional Jews came from between 1945 and 1948? Remember the British were interdicting Jews coming from Europe and interning them on the island of Cyprus.

The only thing that is relevant is that the British Mandate gave rule of what is current Israel to the country of Transjordan. The day after the British Mandate ended, the Jews declared their independence from Transjordan, and proclaimed the name of their Country as Israel. Immediately, they were invaded by seven Arab armies. That war ended with the Transjordan/Israel Armistice which ceded all lands currently ruled by Israel (including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) to Israel. That is all that matters. Everything that happened before that Armistice is irrelevant.

 

The battle I mentioned is not an internal one. It is an explicit actual real world battle, predicted in exquisitely scary detail in the Book of Revelation. I made no attempt to slot the man in a specific slot. I believe he lives in Florida, not in the desert. I will not see that where he has lived anyone will call heaven, hell, or any other non-sense. Toss off with this meta-physical non-sensical admix of real world life and death versus the petty mind-numbing bs inflicted by the desert rat f religions on all their adherents.

I've no idea what you have in mind when you assert that there are things that I've called hell, much less sought agreement from you or anyone else about. Ah, whenever I see someone relying on their cell phone to trace their steps I will find it!? HF, are you demonstrably insane with this Babbage non-sense?

Since however you seem to be going on a bit of a self-righteous rant that you and he share some secret bond, some secret knowledge, some special moral advantage, may I suggest you remind Israel of the special protection of painting lamb's blood on the door posts and have your lead man, Netanyahu, petition the lord with prayer so that your demon god Yaweh can wipe out the oppressive Hamas overnight.

 

Israel became a nation just like we did. They declared themselves a nation and then won the wars that followed. Gaza has done no such similar thing. It would be simpler to move Gaza to Australia.

 

Wrong. In no post have I referred to Jews or Purple People Eaters or Calathumpians ete in any insulting way or manner.

At all relevant times, I have referred to the State of Israel, its continued existence in a different less hostile place.

Tosh.

See what I have already said in this post.

 

So, you are okay with moving either the powder keg or the matches?

(Dunno how I can move Gaza as that is merely the name given to an area of dirt. I am no good at moving land.)

 

Gaza is as portable as Israel is.

But then again, should we move the Settler State of Australia?

 

Nope, it is not a Country/State.

I doubt you could mount a decent case for that, given we have never been at War with our neighbours who are quite friendly, and not hostile. Mind you, we do always keep a watchful eye north.

 

Australia is

But if a neighbor did slaughter and rape 1300 of your peaceful citizens, murdering raping and butchering women, children and babies, you would suggest that Australia should move?

 

Relevance? Jews, however they came, were in sufficient numbers after WW2 that the United Nations came up with a plan for the area. This establishes Israel's right to exist, far more than ancient history.

The UN Plan has far more legitimacy than British decisions about the area.

You must know the world doesn't accept Israel controlling the entire West Bank, and certainly not expelling Palestinians living in Gaza, the West Bank or Israel itself.

As I said, I think Israel should declare a Palestine protectorate with borders that will never get the smaller and could get larger in a peaceful future.

 

You would to well to appreciate the role history plays in establishing Israel's right to exist. That millions of Jews and Arabs living in Israel today know no other home and have nowhere else to go is far more important than what happened in 1948, 1967 or 1973.

 

Nope. And there is no reason any neighbour of Australia would do that. Further, Australia has zero history of endless animosity with any of our neighbours.

Try a different relevant analogy...if you can find one.