Let's move the State of Israel

What do you reckon? Just like we plonked it right in the middle of 'Arabia' with Lebanon, Syria to the north, Jordon to the east, Egypt to the south and water to the west, why can't we urge its geographical location to where the neighbors are friendly?

Is there any State in the USA willing to host?

I am already on social media record as offering the Aussie State of Tasmania (which oddly enough was once a candidate back in the late 40s.)

 

because they got a prophecy to fulfill

they will be ok as long as they never fulfill the prophecy

 

Well it definitely would have some advantages- infusion of new DNA being one of them.

 

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Maybe they should just assimilate to the lands they reside in or try fighting for a country of their own. Rather than having it given to them by the British/UN and being constantly protected by the western powers via the Jewish influences. That's probably not possible considering they're raised to believe that all non-Jews are intended to be their slaves.

 

I don't care about your "biblical" history Jack. I am being pragmatic. Why do you reckon we should not geographically move the State of Israel just like we created it in the late 40s? Doing so reduces the political 'temperature' of the Planet immeasurably, yes?

 

The Israelis created Israel. Please see O Jerusalem! by Larry Collins and Dominique Lapierre.

 

I am content that there be a State of Israel. That is not my argument. Having determined there should be such a State (and to artificially create it) it was plonked right in the middle of hostility. Stupid. So, let's fix the historical geographic error just a pragmatically..

The State of Israel moves and takes with it whatever support it currently gets from the West.

 

I am glad they care. They can have the same 'care' about Israel wherever it is.

Edit:

I misread what you posted. 'Create' and 'care.' Sorry.

The UN created the State of Israel in the late 40s (you know that) and plonked it right in the middle of 'Arabia.' Dumb. Let's fix that 'dumb.'

 

No, the UN did not. The Israelis declared the State of Israel. The UN later recognized Israel. The US was the first country to recognize Israel.

 

It was plonked down due to the Zionists. Zionists aren't going to leave. I don't think there could ever be imaginable Jewish state in the west where the people are expelled for a foreign people. It's already chafing having Muslims and Africans around. Now an entire state? I don't think it's even possible. It may have been post WW2 but, there is too much going on for that to be an available option. Is there even a country that would remotely deport their own people when there is hundreds of thousands to millions of illegals/refugees?

 

I am moving the State of Israel, not a people. If you live in Israel now, then upon its move, you choose whether you move with it or not. No-one forced either way.

 

I nominate NYC.

 

You will never get a straight answer to this question other than a reference to holy books and history, and a lot of distraction.

The truth is religion and sense of entitlement to this particular land. Same with the Palestinians. Though I think it would be a more interesting question with the Palestinians since they are in a far more dire situation as is.

 

I've never been to Tasmania or Israel, but I can't imagine Tasmania being as big a shithole as the Middle East. Maybe it would be if the Pals moved in. That Israel is some promised land. I wonder where the milk and honey is.

 

We have plenty of land in Canada. We could easily accomodate a state of Israel here. They'd just have to learn to live with snow instead of sand.

Of course, even if offered and paid for, Israel would refuse, regardless of how bad Hamas gets.

 

Well, given my Godlike powers and pragmatism, I will simply move the State of Israel, and whoever declines to move with it is welcome to do so. But, all the support the State of Israel gets from the West moves with it, and that includes military support. The West would no longer have any interest in supporting any occupant of the land where the State of Israel was previously located.

 

Move them to Australia. Give them New South Wales.

 

Nope. It is where it should be. Maybe the neighbours should adjust their attitude. Had they done that 70 years ago a lot of grief could have been avoided.

 

You've never heard of Tasmania, Bill. Tell me.....where is that place called Tasmania. Is it part of the USA?

 

Yeah,,,,like just switch off the mutual distrust and hatred that has been there for centuries. Gee, I wonder why that did not work. Nah, best to acknowledge the mistake and move the State of Israel geographically, just like how we geographically plonked it where it is now in the late 40s.

 

No one 'plonked' it anywhere. That process began 3 generations earlier if not futher back than that.I am no fan of a great deal of what Israel has done and does, and I think Netanyahu is possibly its worst ever leader, but the problem here is the unwillingess of Arab states (and others) to accept a reality that is NOT going to change.

Israel is there to stay short of an act of genocide and no amount of whishing is going to change that. Palestineans first threw away a state, were the ndenied one by their supposed 'friends' in Jordan & Egypt and then refused repeated opportunities to negotiate a better deal than they will ever get now. No one is guaranteed a nation - just ask the Kurds, Sahrawi, Tigrinya, Oromo, Rohingya, Ibo, indigenous peoples all over the 'New world' and countless others. Palestineans would have one by now if they had been smarter.

(BTW, you are free to set an example any time by vacating the stolen land you live on, returning it to the relevant tribe & returning to your nation of origin. Jews have a MUCH better historical claim to Israel than us whitefellas have to the land our nices houses are sitting on. If you want to forcibly move a nation of millions, start closer to home and see how far you get)

Maybe if the locals were more focussed on making their own societies function and less focussed on scapegoating Jews as a means of distracting from their own failings the entire region would look different. Had Arab nations spent the last 70 or even 50 years co-operating with Israel to produce a better region and perhaps taking a few lessons about how better to govern themselves the Palestineans would have a state, there would be more prosperity, more freedom & less bodies.

Silly internet wishing games are not a solution to any of those problems.

 

All of that taken as said.....and while it is not factually correct, let's run with it. Fortunately, Australia is not in a state of civil war, or even aggressive hostility. You can play games with history as much as anyone likes but you cannot ignore the FACT that Israel was a created State, the child of trhe UN spawned in the late 40s and plonked where it is cornered by hostile neighbours. Dumb. Let's fix dumb and move the State of Israel to far more peaceful territory and fertile ground.

Or, leave it where it is and let's have WW111.

 

There isn't going to be WW3. Even on a thread notable for its foolishness that just stands out. It is like something our right wing fanatics have been saying about Ukraine. They are also wrong, but that is still more likely than what you are suggesting. This feels like a contest to say the silliest possible thing, and there is just no way I can compete. I'll leave you to your ethnic cleasning fantasies.

Palestineans will either accept that they can have a state on terms they hate or they wil lnever have a state. There is no third option.

 

I am not advocating the creation of a Palestinian State in this Thread which is all about my imaginative solution to a problem the west created in 1947/48 by attempting to bung a round peg into a square hole.