Let's move the State of Israel

The entire region was part of the Ottoman Empire(Turks). They tried to conquer Europe to add to their mass. They lost and were driven back to Turkey, ceding their Empire to the Europeans. After WW2 the Europeans gave a portion to the Jews for a homeland. So you can thank the Arab Turks and their aggression for the birth of the nation of Israel. They walked right into ancient Judaic prophecy. The countries surrounding Israel can also thank Europeans for increasing their holdings because what the Europeans conquered from the Turks they gave back to those countries. I lament that they didn't double, triple, or quadruple the size of Israel because it was theirs to do with as they pleased. But they did what they did according to their best judgment, and here we are.

 

Absolutely zero. Australians have been both intelligent and principled.

Australia.

 

It is an island continent. It has no neighbors.

 

New Zealand, New Guinea, and Indonesia would beg to differ. Indonesia is just to the north of us and has the highest Muslim population on this Planet. Buy an Atlas.

 

Let's not.

 

60% of Israeli Jews have non-European heritage, from North Africa and Western Asia.

 

Israel is not in Africa. Learn some Geography. It is the first point of Asia outside of Africa. I should know as I studied and have a degree in Geography unlike you.

 

99.9% of white JewISH europeans have european heritage. Their name literally means Germany.
Only racist scumbags like Hitler claimed JewISH folk weren't europeans

 

Yes it is, on the African continental mass. the Israelis are the last European colonial outpost that survives in Africa.

 

If you knew the first thing about geography you would understand that Israel is the first part of Asia outside of Africa.

I have a degree in geography so I should know. Your focus on this silly concept that Israel is inside Africa is just ridiculous as continents are merely a social construct.

 

Technically, Israel is on the African Techtonic plate so can be argued that it is part of Africa

 

Large parts of east Africa are on a seperate tectonic plate. Some parts of Europe are on the African tectonic plate.

By your logic, Somalia, Ethiopia, Kenya, Malawi, Uganda, Tanzania, Mozambique, a big chunk of South Africa are not part of Africa.

But Sicily is part of Africa.






Your theory, is plain old stupid.

 

It does not matter what the world accepts. Let's face it, the first Belfour agreement, which was issued in 1917, had only one purpose. It was not to establish a Jewish homeland; it was to rid the European Continent of Jews. The Treaty of Versailles gave the British Government control of the area of the Palestine Valley that had been ruled by the Ottoman Empire. The British established the Palestine Mandate. The original draft of the Mandate called for an autonomous Jewish state where Israel is now less the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. That original plan was backed, in one form or another, by the UN. In 1944, the original Belfour Declaration was changed in a white paper stating that the European Jews would be immigrated into the Jewish state as long as the Arabs agreed. Surprisingly, they did agree until 1947. That is when the Jewish militias started attacking the Palestinians and the British Army. This is because the British Mandate was changed to place the Jewish state under the control of the Nation of Transjordan. But here is the key point; none of this matters!

Here is why. The Treaty of Versailles gave control of Palestine to the British. The British turned over control of the area to Transjordan. The day after the British Mandate ended, the Jews declared their independence from Transjordan. The jews won their independence from Transjordan by defeating no less than seven Arab armies. The Israeli and Transjordan Armistice ended the war, and ceded the areas currently possessed by Israel, including the Gaza Strip and West Bank, to the nation of Israel. That makes Israel a legitimate state and in control of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. We are not talking about what the Arabs, or the UN will put up with. We are talking about International Law.

 

Don't need to buy an Atlas. We all live on the same globe. That doesn't make us next door neighbors, or share a border. There is a reason that the island continent of Australia was chosen as a penal colony.

 

Do tell me why it was any different from the choice to make North America (not an island) penal colonies.

 

I'm not sure Israel agrees with you.

I'm not sure about none of it mattering, but I do think the UN Plan is the most important justification for Israel's creation.

The Paris Peace Conference was the victorious WW1 allies dividing up the spoils of war. I don't think it has much legitimacy in 2023.

How do you justify Israel annexing Jerusalem under international law?

 

Australia has no neighbors, dude. It shares a border with no one. Israel is a small nation that shares five hundred miles of borders with other nations. Stop pretending otherwise. Not only that but Israel is only eight thousand square miles, while Australia is three million.

 

No it doesn't. Jewish is just an adjective for Jew, which is a noun. This is basic vocabulary.

Why are you talking about Hitler? It sounds like you are saying you are one of the last people in the world using Hitler's vocabulary when discussing Jews and you're suggesting everyone else should too.

 

Black = Jew
White = Jewish.

Ppl like Hitler believed Jewish ppl were not white.

 

Most black people are not Jews. Nor do they claim to be Jews.

However millions of Jews are white.

 

The Israelis are likely to oppose your effort.

 

Wouldn't it be difficult to remove Gaza land and all? If we are going to relocate the people, then why not relocate them when the rest of their group resides. Everyone talks about Palestine as a race of people. They aren't. Some, more correctly call then Palestine Arabs. But there is no difference, in religion, ethnics and language between Palestine Arabs, Saudi Arabs, Syrian Arabs or any other Arabs. So, why not put the Palestine Arabs with the rest of the Palestine Arabs. That is the country of Jordan. But guess what! Jordan does not want them either!!!

 

Simple:
Jordan and Egypt do not want them.

 

International Law follows national sovereignty based on treaties. In 1516, Ottoman Turks conquered the Palestine Valley. They ruled the area until the end of WWI. The Ottoman Empire which had sided and fought with the Germans, was disbanded. Control of the area was given to the British by the Treaty of Versailles. The British ending their Mandate turned the land known as Israel over to Transjordan. The day after the Mandate ended, the Jews declared their independence. The Transjordan/Israeli Armistice ceded all the lands including the West Bank and Gaza Strip to Israel. Since Israel earned their independence, they do not need justification to exist, and it is not necessary to annex lands that has already ceded to them. In my opinion, and in keeping with International Law, Israel should take full and sole control of the West Bank and Gaza strip. Those Palestine Arabs that want to go to their homeland merely need to move to Jordan.

 

Israel never wanted Gaza, that's why they pulled out two decades ago. But, they have to do to Hamas what Trump did to ISIS. And what to do after?

The Palestinian Authority was in power until Hamas took over.
Once Hamas is dealt with, I don't see a better answer than returning the PA to power, hopefully with the cooperation of Egypt, which also shares a border. Egypt recognized Hamas as the terrorist they are, long ago, which is why they sealed their border with Gaza when Israel did.

Sometimes solutions aren't available, just trade offs. And this might be the best that can be accomplished at this time.