At Least 300 Dead In GAZA HOSPITAL BOMBING

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    That doctor wasn't hit with a fireball. You're making it all up.
     
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  2. notme

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    Israel controls the sea, and it's airspace. It also bulldozered an entire stretch of land between the border of Gaza and Egypt inside Gaza for the sake to control it and keep it like that. And because of all that, the world agrees that Gaza is occupied just like the WB including East-Jerusalem as well as Golan. Do keep with the program. And so it is: don't like it? Don't occupy it.
     
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    The hospital wasn't hit. The parking lot was.

    No crater. Even some cars not burned.

    Looks more like a failed Palestinian rocket.

    500 people dead? Absolute lies.
     
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    Uh no. To deprive 2 million people from aid and going for a starvation/genocide is so out of proportion that it's a war crime.
    Your excuse is just dumb.
     
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    So Egypt is guilty too huh?
     
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    My point still stands: Nobody is above the law. And what the Jewish state does is simply genocidal.
    Depriving them all from food, water and electricity (them few trucks are not putting a dent into this) is not getting rid of weapons around the residences. And that is as far as I never saw any proof that they are indeed all around them houses and subsequently entire neighborhoods legally can get levelled within the law.

    That doesn't justify jack all to victimize over 2 million people.
     
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    So you agree Israel and Hamas need to be held accountable for their crimes?
     
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    Not relevant to the point that Israel has destroyed their economy and keeps it like that due to them being the occupational force.
     
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    You posted "Violence against civilians would be the act of targeting them" and I proved you wrong by redirecting you to my sources in post 428. You're last post is not commenting on that.

    You also posted "If the people of Gaza had any real moral standards"... and I replied that Jewish Israeli moral standards are massively flawed. They are breaching international law by endlessly starting new colonies and making existing colonies bigger. In fact, the Arabs rose up against that kind of fascist oppression in their first intifada. Hamas is the product of that, and subsequently Hamas is a product of Israeli Jews flawed moral standards on international law. It did not pop up out of the blue. At worst you can say that Islam supports the idea to fight against oppression.
     
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    It ‘s not my excuse. It is Israel’s concern and the US understands their concern. Not to worry aid is going in.
     
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    You imagine yourself to be the arbitrator of discussions?
    I imagine you to be more like a person who likes to pretend you know everything and assumes everyone who thinks differently is stupid.

    If you are going to bother doing any homework, stop cherrypicking and- Nah. Don't bother, it wouldn't change your view of anything. anything no matter what you found.

    Read rule one below.
     
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    I haven't heard anybody that matters doubting this.

    There is no crater to speak off suggesting that it was a missile from Hamas, which is what Israel claims. Israel who told people to evacuate the north of Gaza where this hospital is. Israel who warned the hospital to evacuate. Israel who has bombed hospitals before. And now it got bombed. Well well.
     
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    By Israel. They occupy it's airspace and their sea. They bulldozered a utterly massive wide path in Gaza along the Egyptian border to patrol it. And subsequently it's internationally recognized as being occupied by Israel. Do keep up.
     
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    Nor 1,000, which is one of the claims that Hamas put out as a body count. Apparently you decided to by their lowest number even though the claim they were killed when the hospital was hit and collapsed has been proven to be a lie, just propaganda. The crater would have come from an Israeli missile, being far more powerful. the homeades from Hamas frequently do not. The lack of a crater indicates it was not an Israeli missile...


    You seem awfully confused.
     
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    My efforts here are designed to support Palestine and it's civilians and subsequently it is against the endless ongoing war crimes Israel is committing against them.
    While you seem to have absolutely no problem that civilians get slaughtered by letting Israel rape international law.
     
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    Israel didn't"occupy" to take the land. What they do- with just cause- is maintain a level of control to limit their risk to terrorist attacks. IF you actually did your homework, you would understand that too.
    Again, read number one below
     
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    I don't need to convince you. lol
    You got nothing to dispute, and that will do.
     
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    Do you care at all about Israeli civilians?
     
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    So basically you discount literally anyone regardless of their credentials if they say Israel is not responsible. How intelligent.
     
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    You most certainly are using it as an excuse why 2.3 million people may not get food, water and electricity. And it's a war crime. I sourced that it is.

    They need something like a 100 trucks a day to sustain 2.3 million people. Israel is refusing to allow a number anywhere close to that. And subsequently it's a war crime what Israel is doing. And you're playing dumb on this as if there is no need to worry with a 1/5 of what is needed. How about you got drink a 4/5 less water and 4/5 less food for a week, ey?
     
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    You're sure are not able to dispute what I sourced in post 428.
    It seems it's giving you some kind of inferiority complex.
    Not my problem.
     
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    Sorry I’m just the messenger.
     
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    Look I will save you some trouble. I support Israel. I despise Islamist extremists. I hope Israel doesn't kill innocents but I realize that when Islamist extremists use innocents as shields, some will get killed. Is that good? of course not, but it is an unfortunate byproduct of Israel defending itself against the scummy Islamist terrorists who TARGET non-combatants. I also realize that some Palestinians, -perhaps a bunch, more likely a few-oppose Hamas and are powerless to stop their terrorism or using innocents as shields.
     
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    As far as I heard, people assume such a number is totally plausible. You're free to source differently.
    I'll not taking your word for it.

    Somebody put up a pic in post 601 what a crappy missile from Hamas can do. What happened in at the hospital looks NOTHING like that. What we do got is Israel demanding everybody to leave the north of Gaza where that hospital is at because they were going to bomb it. Israel even specifically demanded that the hospital to be evacuated. Israel previously bombed hospitals. And now a hospital got bombed like Israel threatened what they would do. Well well. And that is besides I sourced that a doctor claimed the ceiling of the operating room dropped down due to the blast. The rockets of Hamas wouldn't be able to do that. So it gets out right dumb to go dispute it all.

    Israel also got a habit to deny such crimes as long as they can. For instance, they denied the use of white phosphorus at the civilian population of Gaza, a WMD, for weeks on end despite a picture was out clearly showing that they were. They eventually caved in. The same crap when they shot a world renowned reporter for the hell of it. They denied it for weeks on end to eventually somewhat agree that it could be possible that a soldier of theirs did it, but they refused to hand over the riffle to the US so it could be proven. They never cooperated with any independent inquiry before, which hints that they do this for VERY obvious reasons. So there is no reason at all to take their word for anything.
     
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