MSNBC medical contributor tells Americans to start wearing masks again after uptick in COVID hospita

Took notice is what insurers do.

Present some of the evidence in the book.

I bet you don't have anything pointing to the vaccines.

 

Well I can see that my attempt to interest those who have a certain Covid narratives in reading the books from which I have provided samples has failed. No sense in participating anymore.

 

It's in the numbers, .03%, that's NOT effective, nor are slogans like, "It kills 99% of germs". Well, I'd love to break it to you, that .03% and the 1% that gets missed, can tip the balance of life or death, at best illness. 100% is effective, have you come across the unicorn (mythical creature) products yet?

 

You'll get better responses from a brick wall.

 

I presented studies. This is Bing:

"There is some evidence that COVID-19 deaths are underreported in many countries, meaning that the official death toll may not reflect the true impact of the pandemic. One way to estimate the underreporting of COVID-19 deaths is to compare the number of reported deaths with the number of excess deaths, which are the deaths from all causes that exceed the expected level based on historical averages. Excess deaths can capture not only the confirmed COVID-19 deaths, but also the unreported or misclassified COVID-19 deaths and the deaths from other causes that are attributable to the pandemic, such as lack of access to health care or increased mental stress.

According to a web search, some of the sources that have provided evidence of underreporting of COVID-19 deaths are:

• The Council on Foreign Relations, which published an article on how different countries are underreporting COVID-19 cases and deaths, and how this affects the government responses and individual behaviors (1).
• The BMJ, which reported that the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated that the global number of deaths caused by COVID-19 was almost 15 million, nearly three times the number reported by governments (2).
• News Medical, which summarized a new study that highlighted the underreporting of COVID-19 deaths in the US, especially in non-metro counties, where about 24% of all excess deaths were not assigned to COVID-19 on death certificates (3).
• Poynter, which fact-checked a claim that COVID-19 deaths were overcounted, and found that researchers have found evidence that overall deaths from COVID-19 have been undercounted, using the excess deaths metric (4).
• Boston University School of Public Health, which published an article on how COVID-19 deaths in the US continue to be undercounted, especially in out-of-hospital settings, where there is significant variability in cause of death assignment (5).

These sources suggest that the underreporting of COVID-19 deaths is a widespread and complex problem, and that more accurate and reliable data is needed to understand the true toll of the pandemic and to inform effective public health interventions."​

(1) https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-much-are-countries-underreporting-covid-19-cases-and-deaths

(2) https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-much-7are-countries-underreporting-covid-19-cases-and-deaths

(3) https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230119/New-study-highlights-the-under-reporting-of-COVID-19-deaths-in-the-US.aspx

(4) https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/died-with-not-from-covid19-death-toll/

(5) https://www.bu.edu/sph/news/articles/2023/covid-19-deaths-in-the-us-continue-to-be-undercounted-research-shows-despite-claims-of-overcounts/

You seem stuck in a MAGA propaganda ditch.

 

I personally know three people who have contracted COVID in the past 30 days -- and yes, they really did test positive for it, too. All three of them had cases that were almost bad enough to send them to the hospital.

I also heard about one more bad case of COVID from one of the people I know who were infected. This has really rattled me because I flat-out do NOT want any more COVID shots at all, and as it is now, I'm wearing a damned mask again every time I go into a crowded store (which, right now, is ALL of them). Just one more really good reason to stay at home and avoid going anywhere there's people (which is nearly everywhere outside the front door).

 

So, health care workers shouldn't wear these..?

 

You have quite the imagination.

 

You might try reading and reporting something other than MAGA propaganda.

 

The study explains why. Do you bother to read any of them?

 

This mask has prevented a lot of covid infections.

 

As I anticipated.

Why is that I can easily smash your pathetic arguments then?

 

Yeah, maybe in your wildest dreams. But they've caused other health issues. Read the studies provided, if you're able.

 

So, those healthcare pros should listen to you?

 

They definitely shouldn't listen to you.

So you attack me for posting relevant information that backs my argument solidly, yet you respond by posting just a picture with someone in a mask validates your claim?

That deserves this...



Read the studies, that's why I posted them. It's not me they should listen to, it's the studies if you're finding it difficult to understand.

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

Was he wearing a mask at the time?

 

It’s disappointing that those with the faith based narratives will not challenge them but only act to scour the internet for confirmation bias links.

I could state that 2+2=5 and provide multiple links that would confirm that falsehood.

 

Or rather than be educated, a very hard sell for this crowd, they would rather ridicule instead.

 

Yeah, like these anti-vaxxers?

Infant mortality rates regressed against a number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

Or these anti-vaxers?

Apparent risks of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome diagnoses after COVID-19 vaccination and SARS-Cov-2 Infection

There's a reason why many people are skeptical of vaccines, these are just a couple of examples. What's astonishing is that many can't see this, do you know any of these kinds of people?

 

Thanks for proving my point made is my post #393.

 

You can lead people to information which might help them but .....

 

When you deal with the information I've presented, I'll take you seriously.

 

You might try getting your information from more reputable sources.

 

How can you and your information be taken seriously, after your claims of mask efficacy are less than 100%? Keep trying, you'll catch up soon.