NRA torches Biden admin for plan to change rules for gun buyers, sellers

guns are good for society because there are lots of criminals and control freaks that we need to defend ourselves from

 

not legally. they have to use a licensed dealer to do so which means the dealer does the background check

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/re..., for a person to,and a NICS background check.

Under federal law, an unlicensed individual is prohibited from transferring a firearm to an individual who does not reside in the same state as the transferee. Generally, for a person to lawfully transfer a firearm to an unlicensed person who resides out of state, the firearm must be shipped to an FFL within the recipient’s state of residence. He or she may then receive the firearm from the FFL upon completion of an ATF Form 4473 and a NICS background check. More information can be obtained on the ATF website. The GCA provides an exception from this prohibition for temporary loans or rentals of firearms for lawful sporting purposes. For example, a friend visiting you may borrow a firearm to go hunting. Another exception is provided for transfers of firearms to nonresidents to carry out a lawful bequest or acquisition by interstate succession. This exception would authorize the transfer of a firearm to a nonresident who inherits a firearm under a will or by state law upon death of the owner.

However, there may be state or local laws or regulations that govern this type of transaction. Check the Handgun Purchase & Possession table on your state page.

[18 U.S.C. §922(a)(5)(A)].

 

as proven by my above posts-lots of people don't even know what gun laws exist so ignorant people wanting more gun laws mean nothing to me. And let's stop the BS, public safety is not what motivates strident gun banners

 

what the anti side understands is that gun owners tired of Democrats pretending that gun control was designed to impede criminals and we started voting against gun controllers who wanted to harass us rather than actually attack real criminals.

 

We laugh at your faux concern over "mass shootings". if you really wanted to do something about mass shootings you would stop wasting our time calling for stupid ineffectual harassing gun laws and instead demand that the politicians fund the police more appropriately and crack down on violent criminals

 

A gun owner is 11x more likely to commit suicide with it than to prevent a crime.

And as I've told you many times, if guns were an effective self-defense tool, gang members wouldn't be killing each other anymore.

 

And we laugh at your "guns keep us safer" rants because no one has yet been able to tell me how that is true when we are the ONLY industrialized nation that has this problem of mass shootings.

 

guns keep me safer. I don't speak for you. we are a different country. I tire of the woke left who try to turn us into another effete socialist nanny state. How many people are lost each year in mass shootings? it's statistically non existent. You all pretend to care about that when your real hatred is toward people who dont share your collectivist nanny state craving values.

 

well that is complete bullshit because you aren't even relating the actual statistic. the real statistic is killing a criminal vs killing your self. and even the Obama administration admitted that thousands upon thousands of crimes are stopped each year. so your claim is absolutely false

 

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check/

 

sorry, I reject that opinion from a far left rag as pure propaganda. and it doesn't even meet the smell test.

 

Not during anyone's lifetime here. What happens after, is for the future generations to decide. But the left doesn't have the strength, nor the votes, to make it happen in the next 60 years.

And even when it is taken, I'm sure it will be reinstated, then taken again, and reinstated again, over the course of a long enough period of time. But that's for future generations to decide. For now, I'm confident the right just won't let you during our lifetime.

 

Guns are an effective self defense tool. Your reference to gangs killing each other with guns as somehow disproving that makes no logical sense.

Objectively speaking, if you are attacked by someone who has a gun or simply out classes you physically, a gun is your best hope of survival.

 

No, my "real hatred" is toward people who say dead 10 year olds are just a price to pay for their FREE-DUMB!

 

except that is illusory. there are no people who actually say that. what they say is that in a free society, there will be crime. and banning guns won't stop that, just as banning fentanyl or heroin has not stopped massive overdose deaths. And the gun banners only pretend to care about dead ten year olds. IN fact many of the avid gun haters LOVE news about children being killed. It is their main supply of propaganda

 

Obviously I won't ask you why you reject them, because I already know you have no idea.

That's why I post dozens of scientific studies on guns while no pro 2A on this forum ever has.... you included.

Better to live in ignorance and deny reality.

 

The constitution guarantees your right to own a gun but it doesn't give anyone the right to sell a gun.

 

there is nothing scientific on studies that start with the premise that guns needed to be banned and works backwards. Nothing you have there actually proves what you think.

I remember a great exchange in congress shortly after the GOP gained control, partially as a result of Clinton's boneheaded gun ban in 1994. Some leftwing academic was explaining how bad guns were, citing studies like you have posted. The late Helen Chenoweth of Idaho listened to the propaganda and asked the witness before the Congressional committee one question: did those studies involve whites? the gun ban advocate stuttered and then admitted NO. and HC then said-well then this study has nothing to do with the vast majority of my constituents or most Americans.

 

Do you think that is a winning argument before any competent court? it's like another gun banner who pretends that Keep and bear does not prevent the government from banning OWNERSHIP of firearms. cute word games that a completely worthless but when you know that the second amendment prevents your schemes you try to weasel with words

 

False.

LINK: 9th Circuit Panel Rules 2nd Amendment Includes Right to ‘Buy and Sell’ Guns | Law & Crime (lawandcrime.com)

Seriously, why would anyone think that there wouldn't be a right to sell guns? If there is a right to own guns, and the government cannot outright ban all guns, then why wouldn't the right to own a gun also come with the right to sell guns? They are part and parcel. You literally cannot have one without the other. Unless you think that they only way a person can legitimately own a gun is to make it themselves? How's that go along with your ghost gun policies?

Just more evidence that "gun-control" advocates want to ban all guns from civilian ownership.

 

I disagree with that statement. You make it sound like there are folks out there who just hate guns, period, but I would contend that were there a lot fewer gun related deaths in America, most or all of them wouldn't care if anyone owned guns.

 

wrong-democrats started pushing for retaliatory gun laws after their scheme to pretend the Gun control Act of 68 was a valid prescription to deal with the disease of rising street crime. Stuff like the Hughes Amendment had no purpose whatsoever other than trying to derail pro gun legislation and harass honest gun owners.

 

If they really cared about 10 year olds, then why not protect them like they protect money? Why not protect them like politicians get protected, by having guards....with guns?

 

I couldn't care less what a congressional witness said 30 years ago.

Since then, thousands of studies have been done on the damage caused by the proliferation of guns in this country.

 

How about 2 weeks ago?