NRA torches Biden admin for plan to change rules for gun buyers, sellers

great-prosecute the ones with criminal records who have guns and aggressively prosecute those who commit crimes.

 

Oh, please.

We have a lot of idiots running around declaring anything and everything they don't like as "unconstitutional." If they want to represent a law as one that should be unconstitutional, fair enough, but yapping a law is unconstitutional when it is being enforced is absurd.

 

Being a part of an ongoing criminal enterprise is criminal behavior.

 

You might start by voting something besides D, as they fortify that culture. In fact, they have for almost a century funded it

 

Some want to ban all guns, not all of us.

 

It may make it safer. Most criminals don't want to use guns and will only do so if they feel they need to. That's why gun crime is so low in countries with less gun culture and more gun control.

 

Depends on how secure they keep them from those who are violent. And how am I to know who is it may become violent?

 

Whether you do or not you are right there beside the people who do.

You have chosen your side..... Like Rush said.... If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice

 

Be a member of a gang is contributing to a criminal enterprise.

No.

You want gang members to have guns. I don't.

If the gang is involved in criminal behavior...

So, gun owners' plans for getting guns out of the hands of the senile, mentally ill, etc. is what?

Whatever we decide.

Your point?

 

Simply being a part of a gang does not mean you contribute to any criminal activity.

Yes.

You want innocent people to lose their Rights simply based on "guilt by association". I don't.

Doesn't mean that everyone in the gang has committed a crime.

Follow the Constitution. Due Process. Adjudication using facts from experts, not claims from someone who may very well have an axe to grind.

OH fine, then we'll just make the adult age 150 years old. That way under your ideology no one will ever be able to own a gun...unless they're in the military of course. Those kids are "different".

Come on, be serious.

The hypocrisy is blatant.

 

If you don't want to ban guns, then stop advocating for even one gun to be banned. Start advocating for fixing the core problems which are the actual problems, not an inanimate object.

 

Your denial of common sense and the obvious doesn't help your credibility at all.

 

so tell us-is the 1934 NFA constitutional in terms of being a proper exercise of congressional power that does not INFRINGE on the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms?

 

I think they do care and they're convinced their "schemes" will work. They don't care if the benefit of, say, registering firearms is completely out of proportion to the cost.

Canada had a $1+b long gun registry and the anti-gun crowd went nuts when the government of the day. This from Bing:

Q: In Canada, please explain the cost of the scrapped long gun registry, the year it was ended, and the number of lives lost to long gun deaths.

A: The long gun registry was a database that required gun owners to register their rifles and shotguns. It was introduced by the Liberal government in 1995 and scrapped by the Conservative government in 2012. According to various sources, the cost of setting up and maintaining the registry ranged from $629 million to $2 billion. The registry was controversial and opposed by many gun owners, who argued that it was wasteful, ineffective, and intrusive.

The number of lives lost to long gun deaths in Canada is not easy to determine, as there are different types of firearms and causes of death. However, according to Statistics Canada, there were 48,830 firearm deaths in Canada from 2000 to 2016, of which 9,919 were suicides and 2,825 were homicides. The majority of firearm deaths were caused by handguns, not long guns. In 2016, there were 223 firearm homicides, of which 130 were committed with a handgun and 30 with a rifle or shotgun. The same year, there were 1,058 firearm suicides, of which 544 were committed with a rifle or shotgun and 214 with a handgun.

I hope this answers your question. If you want to know more about the long gun registry or firearm deaths in Canada, you can use the links below to access some of the sources I used.​

Thirty homicides with a long gun does not justify spending billions of dollars, but the true believers insisted the gun registry was a good idea.

I never try to explain pols and their power machinations.

I don't see this as driving their reaction to gun owners. My sense is they think you're insensitive.

Many don't have any experience with firearms. They grew up in an urban area. What bothers me about their position is that it's grounded in a lack of information--they've taken years to use "assault-style" instead of calling semi-automatics "assault weapons." (What in hell does "assault-style" mean, anyway?")

 

And gang members caught with weapons.

 

The Republican "war on drugs" also contributes to the problem. Voting "R" won't solve things.

 

Nah, it was Roosevelt that started segregation rich, poor and the negro..

https://www.fdrlibrary.org/housing#...he Wagner,housing projects across the country.

 

well what makes them gang members-seems like you would have to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

If the commerce clause had not been mutated and expanded by FDR and his lapdogs in the courts and congress-guess what-there would not be federal authority for most of the war on drugs.

 

Being a member of a criminal enterprise makes you a threat to society.

You're contributing to a criminal enterprise. A participant.

If you're an active participant in a criminal enterprise, you're acting against society.

You asked me to decide for the rest of us. I'm not prepared to do that.

 

so you basically don't believe in due process and you believe in guilt by mere association

OK-I reject that

 

It is until the law is changed or the courts rule otherwise.

 

well that is true with the NFA-as to gang bangers-you'd need to change the constitution

 

The "war on drugs" in 2023 isn't the answer. Republicans don't have the answer.

 

yes, and your point is what?