She Was Denied Citizenship for Working in Legal Cannabis.

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    And she asks, "Do you think this is fair".

    I don't, and this is why we need to reclassify Marijuana out of the 'schedule one' category. In fact, it should be made legal. I think man ruling that a plant, given to us by nature or nature's God (whatever is your belief) is the zenith of arrogance that a plant in it's natural state is 'illegal'. Who are we to make a plant, a thing of nature, illegal? As I understand it, the laws against cannabis were a workaround at antidiscrimination laws, because it was widely known that blacks and minorities were the biggest users (initially, now it's very common in many areas of society) and this was a way to get at them without being declared 'racist'. Right?

    Do you agree that what happened to her was unjust?

    If so, why can't Republicans and Democrats get together and reschedule this drug? Heck, recently Biden pardoned thousands of folks incarcerated for cannabis, who do not deserve to be in jail.


    She Immigrated Legally. She Married a U.S. Citizen. But She Was Denied Citizenship for Working in Legal Cannabis.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...nistration-immigrants-legal-cannabis-00133085

    As an immigrant, Maria Reimers tried to do everything by the book. She entered the U.S. legally, married an American citizen and secured a green card to work. Together, she and her husband managed to open a small storefront in Ephrata, a dot of a town in Washington state.

    But when Reimers tried to become a U.S. citizen in 2017, she was denied for lack of “good moral character.” Federal immigration officials deemed her work “illicit drug trafficking,” because the couple’s business in Ephrata sells state-regulated cannabis. Though it is legal in Washington state, their retail shop has put Reimers’ dream of citizenship in jeopardy. She gets to keep her green card, but her attorney recommended that she not visit her family in El Salvador because of the possibility that she’d be detained at the border when she returned. 

    “We didn’t think about the consequences of getting involved, or how the federal law was going to affect us,” Reimers said. “I’ve been in this country 20 years. I am contributing to the country, but I don’t have the moral character to become a citizen? Do you think it is fair?”

     
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    I agree (call the press Bullseye agrees with PDS!!! :eek:) Something's not right in this situation. Working in a lawful enterprise doesn't suggest "lack of good moral character" - assuming there are no other marks on her record, of course.
     
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    Everything comes from nature. What a strange argument. But I guess if you are lacking an intellectual argument in favor of drugs for all, then you go with whatever you can drum up eh?
     
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    I am for freedom and against prohibition of plants - in fact the war on drugs makes people less safe on things like simple traffic stops, as it corrupts cops - time to end it

    denying his wife of 20 years, citizenship seems a bit much
     
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    you want all of society to crumble under the weight of druggies, their dead bodies and the cost of taking care of them until they are dead bodies just because you over associate freedom with it and don’t like traffic stops? Lol
     
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    Cannabis is a plant, given by nature, as a opposed to morphine, created by man. It isn't arrogant for man to make morphine a controlled substance, but it is for cannabis, mushrooms, etc. What's so strange about the argument?
    Strawman.

    But there is an intellectual (and libertarian) argument favoring legalization of all drugs, since you, not I, brought it up.
     
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    yeah, cause prohibition of alcohol and drugs actually stopped people from abusing them, guess what, the abuse exists either way, you just make criminals of the non-abusers if you have prohibition

    I don't like cops turning traffic stops into fishing expeditions, power hungry cops using it as an excuse to harass American citizens
     
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    Associating arrogance one way or another to legalizing drugs? You arent making any sense at all. Hence why I said you aren’t making an intellectual argument, you are appealing to nonsensical associations like “plants are nature” and “arrogance”. It’s completely bizarre.

    come back to me when your basis for people being drugged relies more on relevant facts.
     
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    Creates more problems than it solves.
     
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    Laws don’t stop murder. You want to legalize murder then right?

    Your argument simply doesn’t work. Laws don’t eliminate crime. They are intended
    to minimize them to the fullest extent possible.

    Pretending like crime existing is a reason to eliminate laws is incredibly naive and flat out ludicrous.

    frankly, I think the other guy blathering about arrogance and holy sanctity of plants is making more sense than you. Lol.
     
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    Do I think this is fair? No.

    But if we're going to go down this road then citizenship should not be granted for any foreigners with a drug conviction or has pot and/or other drugs in their system.

    Edit: we should also revoke current citizenship for any foreign nationals who get caught with pot, sell it, or have it in their system.
     
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    She was operating a marijuana business in violation of federal law. Whether or not it was legal in Washington state is not relevant.

    Not fair, but that is the way it works.

    I do not believe the US needs any non prescription mind altering drugs whether it is alcohol, mj or whatever.
     
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    comparing murder to someone drinking a beer or smoking pot is a pretty big stretch
     
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    You don't get to determine what other people need.
     
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    I never claimed I did.
     
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    Sorry but you did.
     
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    He also doesn’t seem to get that there are plenty of prescription drugs that can be far worse than alcohol or marijuana.
     
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    This news story, and thread, is based on some crazy idea that pot is now legal. It's not. It's illegal as a schedule 1 drug. The fact that States have "legalized" it means nothing. States could legalize kidnapping and it would still be illegal under federal law. I don't know how great a citizen this person could be if she thought she was engaged in a legal business.
     
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    I expressed an opinion. Are you saying I am not allowed to express an opinion?
    Just because something is worse?? Since when does that make something a good idea?
     
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    Straw man alert
     
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    Yes you are

    Because it makes sense.
     
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    What about opium?
     
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    the cracking down on the opium plant has led to the increase of Fentanyl use - unintended consequences

    same happened when they cracked down on Cocaine, Meth became the new thing
     
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    which the DEA is abusing as it does not follow their own scheduling requirements - so even the DEA can't follow their own rules and they expect others too?

    https://www.dea.gov/drug-information/drug-scheduling

    Schedule I

    Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote.
     
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    How is doing something which is harmful to your health less harmful because something else is more harmful?
     

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