Maine strips Trump from the ballot, inflaming legal war over his candidacy

Ah, so you agree. Ole Joe didn't commit any crimes and should not have to go through the witch hunt the GOP is conducting.

 

I think this reasoning will prevail before the Supreme court: the claim that Trump was involved in a rebellion or insurrection will be found wanting by the Court
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/31/donald-trump-and-section-3-of-the-14th-amendment/

The canon of construction of noscitur a sociis, a word derives its meaning from the company it keeps applies here. The kinds of "insurrections" described in Section 3 are akin to "rebellions" as the paradigm case of the onset of the Civil War makes clear. The events that occurred on or about January 6, 2021 were very, very bad, but they were not an insurrection or rebellion.

 

I think it would be best if the Republican voters vote for Haley, Desantis, Christie or Ramaswamy as the Republican candidate instead of Trump. I think it would be better this way.

 

The 6th amendment.

 

So in your world all you have to do is say someone did something, without proof, without a trial, just SAY IT... and you can ban them from a ballot? Wow... SIEG HEIL! That's on the same road as locking folks up without proof.... just accusations... without a trial... just assertions. VERY SCARY!

The age violation can be PROVEN with birth certificate... its not just an OPINION.

 

Whatever happens to Trump should happen to Biden. There should be ONE STANDARD... not one for Dems and one for Repubs.
Its called EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.
Dems are destroying that principle.
Americans have died for that principle. I sure that doesn't have to be repeated.

 

Ummmm and the one in question is the 14 th…

 

The two are not the same….

 

That's right. Age is verifiable in a birth certificate... its a document. The allegations about Trump are all just opinions.

 

Then maybe she should try actually reading what section 3 and section 5 of the 14th amendment say. Clearly, she didn't do that. Congress took the enforcement power away from her in section 5.

 

So you don't want to abide by the 6th amendment, you don't have too.

The first draft of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment provided in effect that: "No person shall be President or Vice President, Senator or Representative, or elector of President of President and Vice President or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States,
The words "President or Vice President" were deliberately edited out of the final version of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. This, together with the disqualification of presidential electors and vice-presidential elector who have engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" makes it clear that the Framers' of Section 3 did not intend for it to apply to presidents or vice presidents.
Congress itself voted to strike the words president and vice president from Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment before its ratification in 1868.

This fact is further confirmed by the Appointments Clause of Article II, Section 2, which says The President shall nominate, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the Supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States.
Moreover, the Commission clause of Article II, Section 3 says that The President shall, i.e. must, "Commission all the Officers of the United States." No President has EVER commissioned himself or his Vice President either before or after the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment. The President is obviously not an Officer of the United States for the purposes of the Commission clause.

Finally, Article II, Section 4 provides that: "The President, Vice President all civil Officers of the United States" shall be liable for impeachment. Note here that the text does NOT say: "The President, Vice President, and all other civil Officers of the United States. Once again, Article II does not treat the President and Vice President as being merely civil officers

Just as Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment contains a hierarchy of officers, so too does Article II in the Appointments Clause, the Commission Clause, and the Impeachment Clause make it crystal clear that the President and Vice President are not civil officers of the United States.

That and the fact that Congress itself voted to strike the words president and vice president from Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment really sums it up.

 

Whaaaah…?

Check my post again…the bold?

 

I don’t have to “abide” by anything, since I’m not an American citizen…

But the Amendment in question is the 14th…

 

Couldn't get past the first sentence huh.
I understand

 

Ah, the irony…!

My first sentence refers to your first sentence. My SECOND sentence refers to the rest of your dross…!

 

So you couldn't divine from the information provided that it was about the 14th?
I believe you

 

So just make an accusation? Just allege, without a trial or defense and you can change an election? Wow... bye bye America.

 

Nice COPYPASTA...
But, next time you may want to give the source (you jacked that from) some credit.
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/12/31/donald-trump-and-section-3-of-the-14th-amendment/

 

It's an opinion based on the bona fides of a piece of paper which can be in doubt at times.

 

Do expand on how lefties were claiming Obama's birth certificate was an opinion based on the bona fides of a piece of paper, which can be in doubt at times.

 

Thanks for proving my point. Bits of paper are always up for challenge.

 

Right, so when the left comes up with new terms like Birther conspiracies, Birther racism, and using cancel culture to attack anyone who claims anything about Obamas birth certificate, thats the left accepting whats always up for challenge?
Thats your point?
We call it leftist hypocrisy

 

The bit of paper was challenged, found bona fide and life went on. Same same. The Maine Secretary of State made the threshold decision an now it will be debated and either debunked or found bona fide

 

The Donald ignored the collective will of the majority of voters because he wanted to remain President. Only a true anti-democrat will do such thing. In doing so, Trump has proven that he's an enemy of the citizens of the United States.

This shabby and chubby fellow is unable to hold any public office!

 

He did and is absolutely deserving of the righteous investigation he is enduring. And more.