Nikki Haley? any chance??

AKA former NJ Governor Chris Christie better known for his NEFARIOUS jamming of the GW Bridge during rush hour so as to PUNISH another politician in the state.

The term "slimey" seems inadequate as a description for his approach to politics, instead it is more akin to Trenton mobster tactics back in their heydays. "Nice little CBD you have there, mayor, be a shame if anything were to happen to it."

 

Except he wasn't involved. The only "slimey" aspect was the Dems' exploitation of the episode to derail his campaign.

 

Haley is raising her profile for 2028, and waiting to see if DoJ will jump the shark and take him out feet first.

I predict '28 will be the year of Haley and Ramaswami.

Democrats: Newsom for his socialist medicine, and for cleaving "trans" children from parental rights, thus legally all children are subject to this cleavage. And certainly his support of wiping out that pesky ballot chain-of-custody rigamarole. And of course abortion as available as a can of beans at Walmart. Or maybe in Walmart?
What is not for a progressive to love?

 

Democrats know they have to get rid of Donald so they can dump Biden along with it.I just hope it is soon enough to let Nikki have a boost in getting the nomination.

 

Nikki Haley not only missed the primary cause of the American Civil War, she refuses to take a stand on the Bahamas, an ominous threat to the nation.

• Ron DeSantis keeps saying the US would "flatten" The Bahamas if it attacked Fort Lauderdale.​

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I have to believe she will also pardon Biden along with Donald after she is elected.

 

She will not be POTUS.

She has ZERO chance getting Nomination, unless SCOTUS disqualify Trump . But even if Nikki is GOP nominee, Trump will not go away quietly. Even if Trump can’t run as 3rd party, Trump will make sure 10% of his supporter stay home. 10% registered republican sit at home is game over for any GOP candidate. On top of that despite Nikki’s moderated version of pro-life stand, it is still extreme position for most pro-choice supporter. And 2028 is long way. In 2028 GOP will go even further to the right where Nikki can’t go or GOP will put Trump behind and move to center where Nikki and anyone who kissed the ring of Trump has no place. Either way, Nikki has no place in national politics.

 

Niall Stanage disagrees.
Political Winners and Losers of 2023

Niall Stanage, The Hill

 

I wonder if DeSantis was drunk when he said that

I dont have a problem with the potential pardon of Trump, since there was a common sense reason for it, - the same reason Obama had when he pardoned Bush admin pre-emptively on Day-1 in office.

 

Sure , until she face actual ballot box and then we will see.

Don’t get me wrong, I like her. I don’t like her politics, I don’t like her views, but I like her. She is million times better then Trump / DeSantis / Cruz / Hawley. But she doesn’t fit anywhere, she doesn’t belong in right wing Trump cult , nor she belong in Centrist American politics. A politician who is running for POTUS can’t even say “ Civil war was about Slavery’ can’t bring moderate American to vote for her.

 

She is in the mainstream / moderate conservative corner, like Reagan was.

 

That’s’ the problem with republican. Reagan’s policy is 40 years old and belong in the past. 1980’s social view , domestic politics , economic policy, social justice doesn’t belong in 2024.

Unfortunately, Reagan’s foreign policy is still relevant. I like Nikki’s foreign policy except her “China bashing view”. But her domestic policy/ moderate conservative corner no longer belongs in 2024.

 

Conservatism is about conserving traditional values and principles, but if none of it applies anymore, then its not Conservatism, - its something else.

 

Well if that is what conservatism is then why only implement Reagan policy, why not go back 200 years back and implement tradition and value they believed?


What do you think Reagan would do if “same sex marriage” was an issue in 1980 ?

 

Times change. Remember that "Don't ask, don't tell" was a Clinton policy.

Reagan would adapt to the concerns of the era.

 

The idea is to honor the same mindset and principles as before, and apply them to current times.

I would presume he would have left it to the Supreme Court, which is what happened later. Are you saying he would have advocated for government intrusion on the matter by criminalizing it? Its a good question.

 

That is exactly my point. “Change of Time” decided what policy is appropriate at current time. What Reagan did was right at that time in 1980, but today talk about Reagan and his policy will not work. We need policies which reflate today’s problem.

Trump became popular among conservative because traditional conservative failed to present an alternative to progressive ideas which reflect 21st centuries problem.

 

Reagan today would understand the environment today.

 

In the last few days Nikki Haley has shown her true colours. She was so cowardly she could not discuss slavery and she is so cowardly she has to tell everyone how she will pardon Trump. That is snively. Those are the words of a spineless coward trying to position herself to inherit Trump supporters or be his VP candidate.

She can kiss my ass.

The only candidate who has shown any fortitude is fat boy Christie.

 

I am sorry, you can’t use 50 years old mindset and principle in today’s world. You think Bill Clinton’s “don’t ask , don’t tell” policy would be acceptable today? Forget about liberals, even traditional conservative who oppose same sex marriage would say a gay person should be able to serve this nation without hiding who he is. As time changes, so does our mindset and principle. Do you think we would accept restaurant owner put up sign “ white only “ today?

 

No Republican candidate can win without a coalition including both never-Trumpers and Trump loyalists.

 

Yes , and he would adjust his policy to reflect today's mindset and principle. I agree. He was a great politician.

 

He would not be the thoughtless coward and criminal that is Trump.

 

Of course you can. If conservatives preferred smaller government 100 yrs ago, they can still prefer smaller government today and 100 yrs from now. The day they abandon their core principles, they have transferred into something else. That's why I call today's Trump Republicans pseudo-conservative.

Bill Clinton never said he was a Social Conservative.

Was a core conservative principle? There is a difference between core beliefs and some policy which was in effect during some era.

 

So what is core conservative principle?