Who is the militia?

So many gun grabbers on the left like to tell us that the second amendment only applies to the militia and that the militia is the national guard.

Yet Democrat officials just sponsored a bill to prohibit or limit militia activity.

So who is it they are attempting to put limits on?

It sounds like at least the elected officials understand that the militia is not the national guard.

Or am I wrong and elected Democrats are seeking to limit national guard training activities ?

 

There are two generally types of militias. The first is the state-sponsored militia. This will include the Texas State Guard for instance. Texas State Guard is a state-sponsored militia. Some states have the state sponsored militias and some states don't. The US National Guard could be considered the federal militia. These militias are codified under law either by the State or the US Federal Government, thus, state-sponsored with specific duties, responsibilities, limitations, etc.

Then we have private militias which is based on 1st Amendment, freedom to assemble and associate. The most famous, or infamous, is the Michigan Militia of the 1980s or 1990s. We also have one called the Republic of Texas Militia, now the Texas Independence Movement. Anyone who organizes a group of people with the intent of organizing as a private army. Most are mundane, just playing soldier so to speak. But some can be very dangerous given their goals, especially if the militia is geared towards anti-government objectives, no matter who is in the Office of the President. but in the United States, private militias are under the broader term, American Militia Movement. Thus, these private militias have different objectives ranging from Christian Nationalism, with the Hutaree to the 3 percenters, who have their view of what the Constitution says. The Michigan Militia was anti-government while exuberating their view of patriotism/nationalism.

 

In my opinion the militia is me with my gun when a crime is taking place against my home and family and our government "protectors" are no where in sight. I'm well regulated for sure....even in self defense we have rules and boundries. It doesn't matter what definition we use for militia. The right of the people to bear arms is clearly stated..

 

That would be a traditional self-defense claim, but it is not a militia. But militias do not have to be armed with firearms. They can be armed with anything, including bows and arrows, which is not part of the 2a, is it?

 

According to the Militia Act of 1903, the term “militia” is used to describe two classes within the United States: Organized militia - consisting of the National Guard and Naval Militia, and the Unorganized militia - comprising the reserve militia: every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45 years of age, who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

 

In modern America, they tend to be paranoid rightwing fantasists, Walter Mitty-type characters, who subscribe to the bullshit qanon agenda and think the government is their enemy and the world will soon fall apart.
Mad Max looms large in their fantasies.

 

Don't forget the "freemen", that's a dozy of a doctrine.

 

There is no such thing as a federal National Guard. They are all state based militias, tied to the Army and Airforce so they can be commanded at the federal level, but they are state agencies.

A militia is quite literally a civilian army. National Guards are more than that and State sanctioned.

 

Man, the red coats would have loved you.

 

this post is very useful. it exhibits the cultural loathing the left has for those who own firearms

 

Lol...only a Walter Mitty fantasist would dream that today's militias have anything to do with our colonial patriots.
Don't cheapen American history by trying to conflate them with some seditious paranoid thugs.

 

Lol...nice straw man there, dude.

 

The United States National Guard is codified in the United States code, and is federal service when called upon. The point I was making is that it is separate from the state-sponsored militias such as the Texas State Guard, which is a state militia. But US National Guard can be defined as a militia in and of itself, with history dating back to the days before the country was founded, such as the Colonial Militia.

 

Not really. I have no respect for certain militia groups that want to destroy the US government. erhaps you should go and visit the Huratee Militia.

However, just because one owns a firearm does not mean they are part of a militia. I own firearms and I am not part of any damn militia.

 

LOL, we were BRITISH SUBJECTS and it was not the redcoats. It was the British were coming.

 

That's called stretching to the extreme....something liberals are left with when they want to void the 2nd Amendment but can't.

 

not at all-your attitude, as displayed in your post, is a perfect example of what motivates the anti gun left, and it's not public safety or even an effete attempt at crime control

 

I am a militia of one.

 

Did You think that they were the ones that "attacked" Jussie Smollett.
At least you're admitting that the militia is not the national guard and therefore the second amendment applies to the people and not government troops

 

So is the Democrat Bill seeking to place training restrictions on the national guard?

 

First that would require that you understand what they meant by militia at the time. The militia at the time of the founding consisted of every able bodied man between 14 and 65 but that appears to have been a descriptor not a limiter since people both older and younger served as did women at time. Note also the militia were generally supposed to furnish their own arms and militarily useful fire arms. One should also be aware that the more prosperous communities often furnished a cannon to go with their militia companies purchased by taking up a collection or not infrequently one of the richer men in town would by it.

 

The US has more gun ownership than any country, by far. How's that public safety/crime control argument working?

 

Why can't CKW be a "militia" all by himself? "Militia" can be singular -- the plural form is "militias"....

 

Since there's roughly 320 to 360 million Americans..... You will need a decimal followed by many many zeros to express shootings in percentage

 

According to the Florida Constitution, a militia is: "(1) The militia consists of all able-bodied citizens of this state and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens."

So that's a lot of people to ban.