Will the War in Gaza Ignite the Middle East?..Israel and Iran On a Collision Course

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  1. Bob Newhart

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    Your questions are based on fantasy.

    And there is no excuse for genocide.
     
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    Then Hamas should cease trying to exterminate the Jews.
     
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    Since your handle is the German word for gray I will assume you are German and not American. That gives me a little comfort. Israel needs to step up the clearing of Hamas from its land. Garbage attitudes like yours won't cease until they do. The faster the better.
     
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    Actually the world is listening to too much Palestinian propaganda.

    Gaza and the West Bank belong to God's Chosen People by right of conquest in the Six Day War. The Israelis did not want that war. It was forced on them by Egypt and Syria.

    The Palestinians should have been deported immediately after Israel's victory. Few Americans would have complained. We were too busy celebrating Israel's glorious victory against the odds. Germany lost land after losing World War I and World War II. Each time Germans were deported from the land they lost. Losing land is the cost of starting and losing a war of aggression, which Egypt, Syria, and the Palestinians hoped would be a war of annihilation against the Israelis, continuing the Holocaust.

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    LOL. I can tell you have never been to war.
     
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    I can't tell if he is being serious there, but I absolutely disagree with notions of superiority and forced resettlement.

    This conflict exists because many people in and around Israel want Israel gone as a state and don't want to reach a compromise. This conflict has been fomented and sustained over many decades now by external forces as well, making things worse rather than better -- on purpose. It has long been a proxy war of sorts between the US and friends on one side and the USSR, later Russia, Iran and others on the other side. Without that having gone on and the Muslim world being radicalized as a part of it, the region likely would be a lot more peaceful today than it is in reality.

    As it is, people on both sides are endlessly frustrated. No one can kill enough people on the other side to get what they're after, and they can't stop killing because the other side won't stop killing.
     
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    What you want is for a second holocaust to occur (think October 7 on a massive scale) and for such anti-democratic adversaries as Iran and Russia to control the Suez Canal.
     
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    Really, just forget it. It's off-topic in this thread anyway, and that's my fault. Plus, I don't need to run this 'gauntlet' yet again. "It is what it is", and, the corollary, "It isn't what it isn't". Each race has strengths and weaknesses, and, in the United States, all races are equal before the law (one of my frequent 'mantras'). Anyway, to hell with it... back on topic....
     
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  10. Bob Newhart

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    He is being serious and he is simply repeating much milder sentiments of National Socialist Israel.

    When one supports Israel, one supports National Socialism.
    Things would be peaceful if the Balfour Declaration was not made.
    Things won't be peaceful until the Israeli's stop oppressing the Palestinians. Don't you remember, "No justice - no peace!"?
     
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    I have posted a 3-hour video agreed upon by 14 of 16 internationally renown judges presenting the evidence showing that you are the one supporting a second holocaust. Your accusation is completely unfounded.

    Yemen is simply sanctioning Israel until it stops its genocide. Biden wants to support his genocidal supporters who have publicly given 5 million dollars to him and who knows under the table. This caused Yemen to have to add the U.S. to the sanctions.
     
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    It didn't begin because of any oppression and that's not what this is really about today. You think the damned Mullahs in Iran really give two shits about human rights in Israel?
     
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  14. Bob Newhart

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    You're reading too much fictional history. Here's a real history book.
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    Do you refuse to read as well?

    But yes, Israel's ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people is what this is all about. Your declaration doesn't nullify the truth.
    Not enough to declare war over. But far more than you do.
     
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    They do not. They don't even care about human rights in Iran.
     
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    General Patraeus predicts Iran's downfall
     
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    How did Islamic nations react to Christian terrorist attacks in Cypress?
     
  18. Iranian Monitor

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    I have listened to the video. The title is misleading, but General Patraeus' comments were fascinating and revealing. At the end, when he talks about the kind of systems the US military should be investing in, he is basically talking about things Iran has been investing in. Of course, Iran doesn't have $850B to spend on its military annually. Maybe if it did, it too would be wasting most of it too!
     
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    950 B is to fund solutions, Iran is funding the problem and it isn't so expensive.
     
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    You think the US wastes money? Considering the range of capabilities we have and how much they dominate any battlefield when properly deployed, I would beg to differ.
     
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    What a silly statement when everybody knows Israel is democratic and captitalist

    Better put some Windex on that crystal ball.
     
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    At least we agree that the U.S. federal government is incompetent at spending. We need a secretary of fiscal irresponsibiity.
     
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    The great irony is that the USA is possibly the ONLY nation in the world not to be invaded, yet they are the biggest warmongers in the world, with the most foreign military bases and a bigger military budget than all of the major nations combined.
     
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    Invaded by the British during the War of 1812 and by the Japanese during WW2.
     

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