IDF STATEMENT "No malice in the killing of the 3 hostages"

They’re called Palestinians because they’re from Palestine. Ever heard that before? Lol.

Why does land belong to anyone?

Do we know each other from USMB?

 

Exactly.

 

Theyve got bigger bombs so they must be right, apparently.

 

How many dead Pali babies will satisfy you? All of them?

 

the Old Testament

 

Except that Ashkenazi Jews don’t descend from Jews in Palestine.

Do you know who the current Palestinians descend from?

 

Maybe in your country. You expect the ICJ to operate exactly the same as your country? Summary Judgment motions, preliminary hearings, are both procedures that can result in a "plausible; proceed" sort of decision.

It has been found plausible it is engaging in genocide.

They certainly have the motive, yes. They don't have the power. So no, they aren't engaging in a genocide.

Agreed. Neither of those are genocide. Those are not ethnic groups. Indiscriminate killing of Palestinians coupled with statements of genocidal intent against them is what the ICJ found is plausible genocide by Israel. If you haven't, I suggest you skim South Africa's brief.

 

A small minority of people living there for many generations were Jews, yes. And those families should have also had a say in the partitioning of the land when Mandatory Palestine was created, along with the Arabs living there, whose families had also been there for many generations.

 

Why should I care?

 

The dead baby policy also known as the CNN policy is employed by Hamas. Hamas regularly used children as both human shields and suicide bombers including mentally challenged teenagers.

Freedman, Ilana. Hamas: The Story of Islamic Jihad on Israel’s Front Lines (Civilization Jihad Reader Series Book 14) (p. 16). Kindle Edition.

Freedman, Ilana. Hamas: The Story of Islamic Jihad on Israel’s Front Lines (Civilization Jihad Reader Series Book 14) (pp. 26-27). Kindle Edition.

 

4000 years is more than a few generations.

 

Lol

 

4,000?

As someone already stated. Ashkenazi have only been there about 100.

 

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Few if any Jews living there when the British created Mandatory Palestine had been living their in family lines going back 4,000 years. So what is your point?
Some Jews did live there for at least a few generations prior (which includes anyone whose family lived there for 4000 years), so they as well as the Arabs whose families had done the same, should have had a say in the partinioning of the land after the fall of the Ottomons.

Note these people were not the colonizers who came in during or after the partitioning.

 

Read the quote upthread. Jews have a greater claim on the region than Arabs because of their 4000 year history including artifacts. The United Nations partitioned the region. Neither the Jews or Arabs were completely happy. Israel accepted the plan. The Arabs attacked Israel in 1948 and have been doing so ever since.

 

4,000?

As someone already stated. Ashkenazi have only been there about 100 and have no documented ancestry to biblical Israel (unlike Sephardi, who do) This can be proven by the fact that ANYBODY can convert to Judaism and become Jewish, thus eliminating any possible claim of direct lineage.

So enough of that bs and just stick to known facts, thanks.

Back on topic AFM, thank you. Reminder: this topic is about the hostages

 

Here is the history:

 

Israel murdered another 31 of their hostages.

 

Are you claiming that the Jews who lived outside the region for centuries had a stronger claim to the land than the Arabs who lived in the region for centuries, just because some other Jews had lived there thousands of years ago?

Is that your claim?

 

I am saying that no one has an absolute claim based on history. And therefore the United Nations partitioned the region between Jews and Arabs.

 

No one ever mentions that the Jews and Jewish organizations had been buying land in the region since 1888.

 

Who said anything about an absolute claim based on history?
I was talking about people living there AT THE TIME it was partitioned. They should have had a say and not been arbitrarily kicked out of where they were living based on what some British and French foreigner decided.

 

I did. There never has been a country of Palestine in that region. There have been both so-called Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews. The United Nations partitioned the region to give both separate nations. Israel accepted the partitioning and the Arabs did not. Opinions on the 1947 partition plan may be freely given but do nothing to change history.

In my opinion Israel should never have left Gaza in 2005. That withdrawal resulted in thousands of deaths. But Israel did leave in 2005. My opinion doesn’t change that.

Are you proposing a 2024 partition plan?

 

So what? There were PEOPLE living there at the time and forced out of where they were living. And they all (Jews and Arabs and others living there at the time) should have had a say in any partition, not some British guy and some French guy.

No. But I do propose Israel stop building settlements in the west bank pushing into where the Palestinians live, and that Israel vow not to settle Gaza, and not to keep Gazans from returning to Gaza after they leave for their safety, if they do the "voluntary reolocation" Nettanyahu pushes for. Otherwise this is textbook ethnic cleansing.