Republicans desperately look for something to run on: Biden's gaffes

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  1. mudman

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    It's an absolute lie (and everybody knows it) to suggest that Biden's gaffes are the same as when he was senator and even VP. We all know his mental capacity has fallen off a cliff since then.

    It's also false to say that republicans can't run on the economy and immigration.

    Immigration is hands down the democrats weakest area and I can't believe anyone would even begin to suggest otherwise.

    The economy is easy to run on too because polling shows most people think the economy sucks....because for most people it does. Inflation has destroyed the buying power of most of the country. People are struggling mightily so touting numbers like the GDP and unemployment rate mean absolutely nothing to the vast majority of voters.
     
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    It is a fact. The effects of inflation rarely go away. Once the prices go up, they tend to stay up.

    Consumers, i.e. voters, are not much interested in economic indicators. They look at their pocket book. You can argue that wages tend to go up at about the same rate, but there is a major problem with that argument. A major part of the population has savings or investments. Those savings and investments have not kept up with inflation, so they are looking at working for another five years before retiring.
     
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    NOBODY has claimed he came into possession of them in some illegal way or that taking them anywhere is a crime..

    Look... I don't mean to disparage anybody. But please understand that there is no sense in trying to debate this with posters who don't even know what the investigation was ABOUT! Read the Hur Report. Don't rely on wingnut media headlines because they are just propaganda. I will wait for you to do that, as I don't think it's worth wasting my time explaining the case to you.
     
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    You can accuse Trump of misspeaking. Go for it.

    But you are trying to stretch the meaning of dementia to fit Trump as if that somehow credits Biden with less dementia as if it is zero-sum.
    Unless it was Biden's genius plan all along to coordinate with the Special Hitman to be both too demented for legal charges, yet not too demented to have the nuclear football and carry out all the duties of a president.
    If this is true, I will give Biden kudo's for the most brilliant five dimensional chess strategy ever cooked up by a US president. He's been fooling us all, by golly!
     
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  6. Golem

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    Whether they want it or not, it's the one they'll have.

    They only reason they're worried is because it's the only issue Republicans are running on. In the end, anybody who would decide based on that will have to figure out if Trump is any better. And they'll find out he's worse. But it won't keep Trump from running on that so long as it's the only issue he has.

    Those are their options. Disliking them will not change the fact. As for the polls, they are meaningless at this point. In fact, the numbers themselves are meaningless. What is significant about the polls is the tendency. Take what you have today, and look at who is going up and who is going down when the campaign actually starts. And it hasn't even started yet. Well... not for the Biden side. Trump has been campaigning almost since he left the presidency.

    Today people are suffering because of inflation. If the economic indicators hold, that will NOT be so in November. The Fed is likely to lower the interest rate. And consumer confidence is already increasing faster than expected. Will this hold in November? Who knows... But if we were to speculate based on what we know now, it doesn't look like Trump will have much to run on, and Biden will have a plethora of topics to choose from: abortion, infrastructure, healthcare, .... maybe even the economy (who knows). Other than Biden's age, I don't see any Trump could run on.
     
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    I don't know if Biden will run on those issues or not. All I know is that Trump WON'T. At least not unless something radical changes.

    Press conferences about HIMSELF and his crimes. Not about political topics. Even so... I don't know if anybody bothered to count how many gaffes he made. But there were plenty.
     
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    I wish the left wing media would stop being outraged at the attack of Biden for his gaffes. They (and we) have been doing that to Trump for 8 years...now its their turn.
     
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    You completely missed my point. I haven't claimed Trump has any dementia. He might be a psychopath, but not demented. Many of his gaffes are for the same reason as Biden's, which is that ALL people make gaffes. Especially when they're tired. But there is another reason why Trump makes gaffes: IGNORANCE! He is an ignorant uneducated buffoon. The point in the OP is that neither of them have changed. Biden is just as absent minded as he was in his 30s, and Trump is just as uneducated as he was when he was 12.
     
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    It is against the law to remove those documents from secure areas, to take them home and to other areas not secure and to store them improperly.
     
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    Yet people who don't have dementia could remember when their own son died
    They could remember what dates they were VP of the country
    They would be able to read their own notes
    They don't claim to have conversations with people who died in 1996
    They don't lose their train of thought over and over and over in a single speech
    They don't shake hands with invisible people
    They don't need a list on paper in their pocket of what reporters they are approved to call on
    They don't pass the entrance of their own office and follow a SS agent around the bushes
    They don't inadvertently walk off stage during ceremonies
    They don't need someone to lead them off stage over and over
    They don't claim to have degrees in subjects they never took thinking nobody would check it out

    These are not gaffes. They are a historical collection of how individuals with dementia deal with reality.
    And everyone who has dealt with dementia in their families knows this.


    You couldn't sell that to anyone but yourself. lol


    So you think Democrats have anything other than orange man bad to run on?
    Like historical illegal immigration with over 7 million illegals crossing the border, (4 times that of any president in history) invading this country
    Historical inflation
    Historical grocery prices
    Historical gas prices
    Historial election interference
    Desperation of trying to remove candidates from ballots because they can't even read the constitution
    Using corrupt DAs to make fake claims against a presidential candidate
    Having corrupt judges declare property values to institute fraud against a candidate
    Using a known corrupt attorney (Jack Smith) who loses his cases so always due to his fraudulent filings and was just caught falsifying evidence to the defendant.

    While leftist (who don't know any better) try and convince those with common sense of their fake allegations, all they have done is continue to swing more votes to Trump. And they are much to blind to know any better.
     
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    But they DO forget what dates they were President of the country.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump...resident-while-on-the-stand-in-ny-fraud-trial

    I have examples of Trump doing just about every one of those or similar... and more. So don't bother.

    My point is that EVERYBODY makes gaffes. And most politicians not because of dementia, but because they're tired, or not paying attention, or ... any number of reasons. But when you add to those reasons being an uneducated oaf, like Trump is, that accounts for MORE gaffes than anybody.
     
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    The Hur report says he illegally retained them.

    The facts can't be disputed.
     
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    You can ignore and make up all gaff claims all you want.
    The fact is, nobody is buying it.
    All you have to do is watch one single video of Biden at the podium to know better.
    And there are hundreds of videos where his mind is just wondering into half sentence after half sentence losing his train of thought that makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Even the special counsel declared he is mentally unfit to stand trial as the jury would find him just an elderly man with no memory of anything.
     
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    Everyone can see for themselves. There will be no convincing you, that's evident.
     
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    Yeah! Look at that! The photo of a black woman.... Scary
     
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    Half black, or less. I bet she isn't even half black
     
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    And with Biden it's continuously. And Joe "talks" to dead people
    You really believe that? "Interviewed very day"? Shouting a stream of jabber while walking to his helicopter doesn't count as an "interview".

    You're confusing the academic economic buffoonery. I'm talking about millions of ordinary Americans struggling against Biden's inflation. My old statistics prof put it quite well "just because you can amass numbers and perform calculations on them does not mean you should, nor does it mean the result has any useful value". Credit card debt hit a new high, prices for food, energy, housing are double-digit percentages higher than January of 2017.
     
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    Golem desperately looks for something to explain Biden's dementia: say it's just gaffes
     
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    We have. The investigation was about Joe's gross mishandling of classified data going back over decades. There is no doubt in the minds of the investigators that he is guilty. That is what the Hur report says. It then says it doesn't think they can get a conviction because Biden is mentally incompetent and because of that no Jury will convict him.
     
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    We'll have to choose between two gaffers. Difference is OUR gaffer can run on many other issues. Yours has only ONE to run on. But, if he does, he'll be running against himself.
     
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    Problem is to many Americans being able to live a comfortable life, pay their bills, send their children to a school where they Get a useful education and even say enough for retirement is far more valuable than any issue Joe's is advocating for. Oh, and he won't be "running against himself" He's be running against the lies and distortions your guys try to peddle. Hint: "saving democracy" doesn't comprise government dictating the rules for every aspect of life.
     
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    Special Counsel Hur could have asked a grand jury for an indictment. He chose not to do so. IMO, his discussion of Biden's mental capacity was a gutless low blow designed to inflict political damage.
    Hur is not qualified to evaluate mental health. Did it hurt JRB politically? Off course it did. American politics is a very dirty low down business.
     
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    How about a MUCH better qualified Black woman -- named Condoleezza Rice! Ha! You weren't expecting THAT now were you...? :nana:
     
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    Aside from the Hur report......it is not legal at all for a Senator to remove Classified Docs in any way.
     

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