Mail-In Ballot Fraud Study Finds Trump ‘Almost Certainly’ Won

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again with The Epoch Times?

    This is another "leave out the pertinent facts" hack job by a far right rag. It's another 2020 election bullshit story, nothing more.

    How many of these purposely misleading, if not outright lying, Big Lie stories must we debunk before you finally get the FACT that Trump lost the effing election?

    https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

    That's from a very conservative organization, so you can't claim left bias.

    There. Was. No. Voter. Fraud.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See #51.

    The Epoch Times has zero integrity.
     
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    The 2020 election was stolen. Notice that Trump is t talking much if at all about it anymore. Because he’s focusing on the here and now abd the need to replace the badly failed Biden regime with America 1st and Trump 47 or 48 if Harris is President for a few months…
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really, not seriously, and not many. Certainly nothing on the scale of Trump and his Big Lie about 2020, as this thread clearly shows.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Warren had questions, those questions were answered, end of story.

    Trump's bullshit fraud stories continue to be a never-ending source of both amusement and sometimes annoyance.
     
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    Nadler's remarks are from twenty years ago. It's likely he knows more now, about mail in ballots and the security thereof. Colorado has been using them exclusively for ten years or so, and the method is very secure.

    Nice cherry picking, though. No one had to ask you to prove it this time. I certainly appreciate that.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your source is lying to you, or at best misleading you. I've proven that to you before. I hate to see my fellow Americans soaking up so much deliberately false information. There are conservative news sources that are honest brokers of facts. I beg you to find one.
     
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    How do you know that? Got a (reliable) source?
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I remember Trump flapping his jaw about it being rigged, right up until the moment they told him he won.
     
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    A legitimate source of lies, misleading statements, and twisted conjecture taken out of context and fed as red meat to an audience in love with their abhorrence of anything left. Its strictly for those who can't get enough of that "I hate the left" stuff and grasp at any tiny straw that will keep the fire going. They know their audience.
     
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    No, it wasn't.

    Trump hasn't stopped pushing his Big Lie at all. His rhetoric has not changed in more than three years.

    Bullshit. He's campaigning on the same crap as the last two elections. He's just gotten louder and angrier, cranking up the hate.
     
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    Read that too, was about to post it and see you were already there. I have little doubt that the problems were in the mail ballot category; it was by far the most vulnerable to fraud and most difficult to verify.
    The people who disagree about election fraud have a right to do so- but not a right to say that all who think otherwise have no rights. I see things like that, and I have even more confidence that those who think that way would have no problem with using fraud. While it's true we have no useable legal evidence, all the factors that would be indications of fraud are still ringing the bells loud and clear.

    Looking at Joe and his presidency today, I'd be hard-pressed to believe that Americans ability to see the picture would have been so poor as to have voted for what we have- which seemed obvious to me before the election. While I didn't know just how he would botch the job, I still didn't suspect he would do it as bad as he has.

    I think the last press conference finished the job; Joe is now a "Lame Duck" kind of president. He may be a place-holder, but anyone endorsing what Joe says (if they let him say anything again) will be seen as dementia babble. History has been written.
     
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    Why? Is it because they resist the CCP and it’s persecuted of them that you say that?
     
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    Thus sayeth the CCP!
     
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    No. Y'all won so you went with the canned will of the people response. Hell, rightists use fraud so much as their excuse, they already blame fraud months before the damn election. LMAO
     
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    The Epoch Times is a highly respected news source and information...
     
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    What changed in 20 years? They still get mailed to people and people mail them back. Isn't that the whole point?
     
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    LOL, no.
     
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    From Wiki:
    The Epoch Times is a far-right[1] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement.[29] The newspaper, based in New York City, is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[30] The Epoch Times has websites in 35 countries but is blocked in mainland China.[31]

    The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[32][33][22] platforms far-right politicians in Europe,[8][10][22] and has supported former President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[34][35] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign itself.[30][36][22] The Epoch Times frequently runs stories promoting other Falun Gong-affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company Shen Yun.[34][24][37] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have promoted conspiracy theories such as QAnon, anti-vaccine misinformation[41] and false claims of fraud in the 2020 United States presidential election.[44]
    Maybe highly respected among other right-wing whackos I assume.
     
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    The propaganda "media" above now run multiple ads a day of Fox "News". Crazy!!!
     
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    Who cares.... Wiki has zero integrity. Their assessments rates right up with the National Enquirer and the onion.
     
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    I can always count on you to bring your "A" game.
     
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    There in lies the problem with the basis of the study's conclusion, which states “This means that more than one-in-four ballots cast by mail in 2020 were likely cast fraudulently, and thus should not have been counted”

    Although 0 in total participants admitted to voter fraud in their survey answers, the study is concluding that more than one in five of them committed fraud. As for voting in a state you do not reside in.. again, that depends on your registration status. People vote while out of state or while out of country all the time. It's a regular thing for people in the military who are stationed out of state or overseas. It is also very common for people who are out of state or out of country to attend college. It doesn't mean they committed fraud

    The conclusion of the study is 100% speculation, there is no evidence presented to show so much as 1 occurrence of fraud, not to mention 1 in 5 participants. It's not rational
     
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    It is rational because it also fits the facts. One thing that is always true is like the saying that the leopard doesn't change its spots- and people don't change their character, at least only in very rare circumstances.
    Biden has of course shot himself down, proving what all rational people already knew. I don't think this is a surprise to the democrats other than it's timing. I suspect that the issue of replacing him has been an internal struggle- with little to show for it. Not a single name with potential. Michelle Obama's name keeps popping up, and while she does have name recognition, she will have zero qualifications in the views of most people. Biden proved what was obvious in the campaign and many people were sure of even then- that was not qualified. I think that a rational, intelligent mind would have concluded that in 2020, despite the apearances of dementia, that Joe wasn't really a viable candidate. The Biden presidency is now over; he's a placeholder for the rest of the year, then it's off to the care home.
     
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    His news source used valid news information and quilted properly from them. It’s only not news because of arbitrary bias against the news source. No other reason.
     
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