Mail-In Ballot Fraud Study Finds Trump ‘Almost Certainly’ Won

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    That link has audio!
     
  2. Steve N

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    I know democrats did.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude, or is it dudette, or dude they/them? Elizabeth Warren questioned them. Is she also in the dark little paranoid corner of the internet?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Im sure it does, but I do not. I'm in my garage smoking a cigar using a computer with no speakers.
     
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    Do you?
     
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    Elizabeth Warren questioned the results and since doing so? To date she also hasn't produced a single shred of evidence showing there was any fraud either. Starting to see the theme here are you? i.e. Lots of of people saying it's true. Bugger all proving it.
     
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  7. Steve N

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    I honestly don't know. Do you?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude, she questioned the accuracy of Dominion's machines. Congress held hearings on the thought that Putin hacked them, do you remember that? Nadler said mail in ballots were susceptible to fraud. I provided the link. Are you seeing a pattern here?
     
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    Yes, yes I am. Lots of people 'thinking stuff' might be true but none of them actually proving that any of it is. (True I mean.). Even with the awesome Power of GraySkull, sorry I meant Congressional hearings behind them. :roll:
     
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    Neither source verified a single occurrence of voter fraud, nor did the Rausmussen survey claim to verify any occurrence of voter fraud. These are the questions from the Rasmussen study and their respective results

    1. 17% of mail-in voters admit that in 2020 they voted in a state where they are “no longer a permanent resident”

    This is not illegal under most circumstances. People are allowed to vote while residing in another state under many circumstances, such as being stationed for military services, attending school (students may have the option to vote from either their permanent residence, or their temporary dorm residence), people who are working elsewhere for their work, or people who own a residential property in another state, they are allowed to pick the location of their property as their place of voter registration, regardless of which location they spend more time in. For example, president Trump was registered in Florida while his main residency was in DC. He could have also been registered and voted from New York, or anywhere else where he owned property that could be classified as residential. People who moved recently are also allowed to vote from their old residency, depending on how close to the election their move was. As long as they meet these requirements, and they are not registered to multiple locations at the same time, they are good

    2. 21% of mail-in voters admitted that they filled out a ballot for a friend or family member

    This is also not illegal if you have that person's permission. I'm actually planning on helping my girlfriend with her ballot later this month.

    3. 17% of mail-in voters said they signed a ballot for a friend or family member “with or without his or her permission”

    This would be illegal if it were without the person's permission, but as we can see here, the question is clearly phrased as "with or without" their permission, and doesn't specify if it is one or the other. So once again, the answer to this question doesn't tell us anything about voter fraud. In fact, many mail in ballots have a second line for signature for people who are delivering the ballot on someone else's behalf

    4. 8% of likely voters say they were offered “pay” or a “reward” for voting in 2020

    It's actually not illegal to offer rewards or discounts for voting, provided that you don't make any requests or demands for how they vote/who they vote for. A few examples of businesses who have offered rewards to people for voting include Lyft, Krispy Kreme, Shake Shack, Taco Bell, and Popeyes

    Here is a link advertising such rewards -> https://dola.com/p/election-day-deals-freebies-los-angeles


    In short, the notion that any of the individuals who answered the survey committed fraud is 100% speculative. Not a single person who took the survey described themselves as committing voter fraud
     
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    The Epoch Times was very careful to write their piece as you describe.
     
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    I don't think Rasmussen or Heartland broke their poll down by party affiliation. At least they didn't publish it.
     
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    This flogging of a dead horse does serve one key purpose! It floods the zone with **** and that works for Trump and ultimately for America's enemies.
     
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    I had one issue with the Dominion voting machines. AFAIK they were the first voting machines that were hackable by outside sources.
     
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    So the EPOCH times (a far right "newspaper") used data from the "heartland institute" (a right wing "thinktank") to come up with "it was stolen". Rassmussen just collects the data, they didnt interpret it, EPOCH and Heartland did that

    JFC
     
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    The Epoch Times and Rasmussen were very careful to not definitely say that the votes were in fact fraudulent. Did you say that none of the respondents admitted fraud??? DUH!!

    Voting in a state where you do not reside is in fact illegal. In all your other cases in the preponderance of absentee balloting it is not illegal to get help but it is illegal to get help without the helper's signature, attesting they are helping because they were asked and in most cases their domicile address. In those states that went whole hog mail-in balloting this is not usually true.
     
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    Exactly.
    A hilariously mischaracterized title, based on an OPINION that even the linked article admits is utter BS.
    A Direct Quote from the ET Link in the OP:
    Jim Womack, president of the North Carolina Election Integrity Team, told The Epoch Times in an earlier interview and in additional written comments in response to the new study, that he believes the survey questions were flawed and make the survey statistically meaningless,
    However, he said that the survey questions on which Heartland based its research were unclear. He argued that the questions comingled legal and illegal activity and that this made it impossible to conclude specific percentages of mail-in ballot fraud with certainty.
    For instance, Mr. Womack pointed out that it’s legal and permissible in all states for people who by reason of blindness, disability, or illiteracy request or require assistance in filling out mail-in ballots to get such assistance.
    However, the wording of one of the survey questions—“During the 2020 election, did you fill out a ballot, in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child?”—did not differentiate between legal and illegal forms of filling out a mail ballot on behalf of someone.
    Therefore, 21 percent of people responding “yes” to this question does not necessarily mean that this percentage of people actually committed voter fraud, Mr. Womack argued.

    ^Heartland Institute "Survey" getting Totally Owned!
     
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    Bribed Joe is in office due to a rigged election and it looks like Dems are struggling to rig two in a row.

    Bribed Joe Has No Brain: “Who’s Going to Take the Keys Away from This Man?”

    Bribed Joe 'has not sat down for a formal television interview with any news outlet since October. He has not held a formal press conference since the Asia–Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in November. That day, he took four questions. As noted yesterday, Biden didn’t make any televised address to the nation when the U.S. launched airstrikes against the Houthis in January, nor when he ordered airstrikes against other Iranian proxy groups in Iraq and Syria earlier this month. Biden didn’t give any Election Night remarks as he romped to a big win in the South Carolina Democratic primary. And Biden is skipping the traditional Super Bowl Sunday interview for the second straight year.'

    Either Bribed Joe Is An ‘Elderly Man With A Poor Memory,’ Or He Needs To Be Charged. Pick One.
     
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    I have concerns about every election, no matter the declared winner. Elections are too easy to rig with voting machines and mail ballots. We need voter ID, like they have in Puerto Rico of all places (lots of socialists there), and same day voting on paper ballots.
     
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    Oh puh-lease. Rightists are consistently the same. If your party wins, y'all proclaim the will of the people. If your party loses, it's always the voter fraud excuse. LOL
     
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    Do you mean like 2016???
     
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    So, for all we know, they could all have been Rep voters…?
     
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    This is a great current events news story.
     
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    The source is legitimate whether you or tge Biden regimes Chinese handlers like it or not.
     
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    They love to sweep their own 2016 behavior under the rug.
     

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