WSJ: The Moral Blindness of Putin’s Apologists on the Right

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hmmm... tempting but... nah! Just try to not do it again.

    Keep in mind that leftwingers that manipulate pictures are LOUSY at it. It's ALWAYS obvious. Whereas Putin's propagandists are real professionals. You'll only know that they're manipulated if you don't jump in, head first, assuming that they're real. Facts are always slower to come out than lies.

    And, I can tell you now, there will be many many of these. You'll see them on Fox, Truth Social, Twitter, Breitbart... at an increasing pace. Especially in October, when there will be no time to fact-check them.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    So, the answer is to use the legal system to keep him out of office. All in the name of democracy...lol

    And...AND... we're supposed to just trust them that it's the right thing to do. In the name of democracy, of course... LMAO!
     
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    Does that make a Ukrainian politician?
     
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    You mind if I run some of these not so obvious by you, Clearly you know everything about anything.

    Not trying to be facetious here, but I think you are two levels above copilot or any of the other new emerging AI :nod:
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    That's how fascism works.. Helps to have all the media work for the state too ;)
     
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    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    I agree, Obama was the worse.
    Then you must have loved it when Trump was
    killing hundreds of Russia troops in Syria,
    or being the first president in history to give Ukraine lethal weapons to kill more Russians,
    or Trump cutting off Russia pipelines to the UK which would allow Moscow to circumvent Ukraine
     
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    Truth hurts so bad you have to switch topics? Sure. And the deaths per month from covid increased when Biden took over.
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not me. Newer technologies make if very very difficult to tell fake from real for anybody. What I hope I'll be able to do, that folks on the right probably won't, is... wait! Wait until professional fact checkers get a chance to review it. Which means you will need to do research before posting. Nothing fancy... Usually just a google search.

    BTW, congratulations on getting my post deleted. I was expecting that (I usually am). I thought about reporting the fake photo you posted as if it were real. But I figured it's better if it stays there so I can later use it as a reference for others.
     
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    Like I said, I didn't know it was fake.. As for getting it deleted, wouldn't bother me in the least ;)

    "Nothing fancy... Usually just a google search."
    Odd? Thats where that fake pic came from :shock:

    I guess you can't trust any search these days :pc::roll:
     
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    Hate to break it to you, but Trump has NO idea where Russia or Syria are. Maybe Russia, because that's where his boss lives. But Syria... no way... He probably thinks somewhere in Africa or South America. He just signs whatever order his generals put in front of him.

    You have to realize that Trump, as President, is ONLY interested in what benefits him. And the Arabs might use his hotels, but not the Syrians. The rest he delegates.
     
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    This is the best argument you could come up with. Trump doesn't know where Russia or Syria is?
    Barring your new claimed magical ability to read Trumps mind, when the historical evidence is against you, I guess its your last refuge.
    I can't even imagine how painful it is for you to know that Trump killed hundreds of Russians in Syria
    or being the first president in history to give Ukraine lethal weapons to kill more Russians,
    or Trump cutting off Russia pipelines to the UK which would allow Moscow to circumvent Ukraine

    Really works against everything you ever post on the subject.
    Are you the new Kreskin? lol
     
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    Really.

    So you can point to other cases in US history where people charged with trespassing were held in prison for years.
     
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    Says the people that created an actual Ministry of Truth.
     
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    Truth hurts so much that you cry 'switching topics' when called out. You created fantasy based on zero evidence that if Trump won, Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine and people wouldn't have died. I laid out the fact that US citizens died under Trump. If you can only base your opinions from 'what if' scenarios, that's sad and pathetic.
     
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    Of course, when I say "fact check" I mean in reputable websites. Don't expect Breitbart or tuckercarlson.com (I don't even know if that exists) to do any REAL fact checking.
     
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    Actually, it's such a basic argument that it's one YOU should have come up with. You always need to remember that Trump is an uneducated dope. He would have NO idea against who he's supposed to strike, much less HOW they would be carried out. I mean, I wouldn't expect him to have the experience Biden has of DECADES in international affairs. But Trump wouldn't even be able to locate those countries on a map.
     
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    And if what you posted were even true, (Which its just your opinion)
    Nothing you posted changes anything
    Under his command,
    He killed hundreds of Russians in Syria
    He is the first president in history to give Ukraine lethal weapons to kill more Russians,
    He cut off Russia pipelines to the UK which would allow Moscow to circumvent Ukraine
     
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    Oh.. well... if we are talking about "under his command", then I'm sure you'll hate the fact that he killed over a million Americans during Covid. And THIS really WAS because of his actions (or lack thereof)
     
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    That is clearly a Photoshop!

    In reality, Obama was facing in the opposite direction when he bent over for his master in Iran. :buggered:
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your point depends on two assumptions being true:

    1. That there is no evidence of Trump crimes and fraud
    2. That the DOJ does whatever Biden tells them to do.

    Since both are false, your point is without merit.

    Trump fraud has already been determined by juries of peers.
    There is tons of evidence for the GA and Wash DC and Mar A Lago indictments.
    There is no evidence the DOJ is anything other than an independent arm of the administration, but the evidence exists to the contrary, to wit:

    1. Garland extended Trump appointed attorney to continue investigating Biden's son..'
    2. Garland defended Trump twice in court.
    3. Garland did not intercept and force SC Hur to modify his summary of his report, which cast Biden in a negative light.

    That Trump happens to be a Biden opponent is therefore an incidental fact.

    If your point had merit, then it would be a situation where opposition could crime with impunity, because you would always claim 'weaponization' and there would never be a circumstance where criminals who are candidates could be indicted and prosecuted, a situation which is, in point of fact, untenable, the conundrum of which, apparently, hasn't occurred to you.

    The only reason you are making this claim because you are short on positive arguments about your candidate and his policies, short on defense of his crimes and fraud and you are grasping at straws in desperation.
     
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  21. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That you traffic in photoshopped images destroys your credibility.
    (See #73 for proof).

    Dismissed.
     
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  22. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, that isn't what @Golem means. Please reread his comment until you do understand what it means, hopefully it will arrive as an epiphany.

    But, of course, given your ego, I doubt that moment will ever arrive.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    BRAVO!!! Another rightie BUSTED!

    HAH! I love it.
     
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    Yechh, Senior officers NEVER salute lower ranking personnel, especially if they are from countries who are actively trying to destroy the west. Here the CiC is saluting a russian general? No wonder the Russians think of Trump as a 'useful idiot'
     
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    Or maybe the lights too bright. :lol:
     
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