Trump references Carroll at Georgia Rally

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  1. Hey Now

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    So If I were his lawyer, I actually would want for them to open the case again. Because this time, he should go on the legal offensive. The objection to the whole cum thing(not that I think it's actually preserved scientifically) was the invasion of privacy.

    My first step would be to ask to take the test in the privacy of Trump's home, and if it clears oh boy, the next thing I'd do is hit the plantiff with a counter lawsuit for every...last...penny.

    Watch her do what 99% of people do then: Settle out of court.
     
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    It was a legal adjudication, no joke, just reality.
     
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    There was a legal adjudication against him on the same premise and actions, yet he continues the same behavior. Don't have to be from the US to see it.
     
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    The direct witness was Carroll herself. The other direct witness - Trump - didn’t deny her account.
     
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    There were no witnesses. It is a he said/she said situation. So if Trump knows he is innocent he has every right to proclaim his innocents.
     
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    So?! Carroll offered no witnesses to her claims. For whatever reason the jury went with Carroll's story over Trump's. If Trump's claim of innocence shows Carroll as a liar oh well!
     
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    Again this was some of the evidence put before the jury along with other women who said he attacked them and then of course most people are aware that he has multiple multiple allegations of assault and inappropriate behaviour

     
  9. AmericanNationalist

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    'Evidence'? You're telling me this piece of **** was admitted as evidence? I mean, I've lost respect for the judiciary but this is even more embarrassing. Not only is there nothing in here that remotely incriminates Trump, none of this is germane to the case.

    Trump really doesn't have the best lawyers because from here, I have several objections. 1) This is leading the jury, by making an association between Trump and Epstein when that has nothing germane to the case. 2) The case is about defamation and the assault, this video does nothing to solve the case in either direction and is thus as frivolous as this stupid case itself.

    The case is not about Trump's character, I would swiftly remind the jury about what it was asked with resolving and asking the judge to keep the trial on point. https://fourthcircuitil.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Common-Objections.pdf
     
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    Haven't you learned by now that it isn't about learning a new personality. It is about saying what is on his mind regardless of the consequences. He isn't going to change. So we have this and an even older man who has left his job to his staff because it is beyond his capabilities. See anything wrong with your political system?
     
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    Does it matter?

    I’m beginning to think that Trump’s appetite for chaos is going to drive him to bring down everything around him.

    He has no intention of paying any of his fines.

    And he’ll watch and bellow as the courts adjudicate his inevitable bankruptcy and start selling off his properties (which will probably not be anywhere near enough to pay his fines, given how overleveraged he has always been).

    Martyrdom seems to be his goal these days.
     
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    If he knows he is innocent he should have said it under oath, at trial. But he didn’t.

    So not he said / she said. Just she said.
     
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    Your post is a perfect example of the upside down world in which tRaitor tRump supporters live. New York City is tRaitor tRump's home town, supposedly he was part of the elites, the mover's and shakers of the town. He claims to have been one of the cool kids. So, why is it you believe he could get a fair trial in NYC? I just seems incongruous to me.
    You're forgetting, or ignoring, that the Engoron/damages trial was subsequent to the physical assault trial which tRaitor tRump lost and Ms Carroll won a $5m judgement. A jury found that there was enough evidence to award those damages. The allegations by tRaitor tRump or Ms. Carroll were not what the damages trail before Judge Engoron was about.
    A jury said "YES" he did sexually assault her. So everything tRaitor tRump said about her was slander.
    "We" - Judge Engoron had the judgement of the jury as evidence of tRaitor tRump's assault, it was no longer a ""he said, she said" situation".
    You have to throw out all logic AND common sense that "she is probably the liar". It had already been decided that Raitor tRump had sexually assaulted her and the he was the liar. On top of which tRator tRump is a proven serial liar. He lies when the truth would serve him better; as this case proves.

    He and his inept lawyers went from a $5m judgment and added on a $83m+ judgement. It was $83m+ because the judge felt it would take that kind of penalty to get him to behave and quit slandering Ms. Carroll. In that the Judge was wrong. :shock:

    He came out the other day bragging/complaining that he had posted a $90m++ bond so that he could appeal Judge Engoron's decision and, hopefully at least, get a reduced penalty. :thumbsup:

    But then, in his next breath, slanders Ms. Carroll AGAIN!!! :eyepopping: How ****ing stupid do you have to be? You put up a huge bond, that would be an unimaginable fortune to 99.9% of the people on the planet. And then, with your big mouth and little hands, prove that not only does your request for a more lenient judgement lack merit. BUT!!! IF Judge Engoron made a mistake it was not making the penalty LARGE ENOUGH to keep your mouth shut.

    And his supporters think that kind of genius should become president.

    [​IMG]

    I wonder if the man can tie his shoes. If he didn't prove the first time he got elected that he doesn't have the brains god gave a goose, this little episode should remove all doubt.
     
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    Either you are very naive about this, or you're being intentionally disingenuous.
    The irony is that even though Trump comes from NYC, the people in NYC hate Trump more than almost any other place (perhaps only with exception of the nation's capital DC). This has to do with politics and the political culture.

    In overall politics, of course, this is very unusual. Normally a politician has a big popularity advantage in their home state and home city. But in this case it is very much the opposite.

    One thing you can remember is that NYC was the abortion capital of the country even before Roe v Wade. It's very much a Democrat city.
     
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    I didn't argue the point, I just think it's odd since he supposedly was one of the NY cool kids.
    Maybe some, but more because he's a prick that screwed over everybody he could, every chance he got, everywhere in NY ... BY FAR.
    I wonder why???? :roll:
    Before he realized how much politics can be worth and that, with little effort, he could hijack the GOP ... so was tRaitor tRump.
     
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    Well, you have only to look at how the media coverage of Trump changed right after he started leading in the polls for the Republican nomination, and especially a few months after he won the election and became President.

    It is quite astonishing, in fact, but this goes back to the power the media holds over public perception.

    However, I think NYC has always been a little lukewarm about Trump. It's just the level of hate was much less serious and intense.
    You can look at how Trump was parodied in the children's TV show Sesame Street with the character "Ronald Grump" all the way back in 1988.
     
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    Is it really a bad strategy? He's done a lot of fund raising using his several court trials.
     
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    Of course they have. They were the ones who had to primarily deal with him before he became president. And before that, he was just a real estate guy. Annoying but not consequential to most. That all changed too when he became president which is why people's disdain for him went from lukewarm to turbo speed.
     
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    If I were the chairman of the DNC, I would offer Ms Carroll the best and brightest lawyers on the planet to pursue further lawsuits against the Orange rapist. On contingency.
     
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    It took awhile after his inauguration for people to realize that he wouldn't step up and be a leader, and would more likely be a danger to our nation.
    Yeah, it's unimaginable how Faux a Blightfart have gained total mind control over a third of Americans.
    Until he ran for President tRaitor tRump was looked at as a joke and a wannabe by truly rich people. You're wrong about "the hate", nobody takes time to hate tRaitor tRump, they fear the power he's gained over the whole country by the unconditional control he has of a fraction of Americans. He isn't hated, most people wouldn't piss on him if he were on fire, but they don't hate him. Once his power is neutralized, if it can be, "they" won't give him the time of day. He's a clown and if he doesn't win in November he's going to prison.
     
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    Why, we usually agree but, there's no percentage in it. It's probably more legal than tRaitor tRump getting help from Russia but just as chickenshit.

    The DNC needs to be getting the right messages out.
    1. Biden has been much more successful than he's being given credit for.
    2. He's not mentally unfit
    3. TRaitor tRump is a treasons **** sucker that will end Government By the people given a chance.
    4. And, even if he wasn't, which he AbsaByGodLutely is, TRAITOR TRUMP IS THE ONE that isn't mentally, morally or in anyway fit to be President.
    That's all true, but for whatever reason it's not well know. The DNC needs to make it UNMISTAKABLY CLEAR. That's their most important job until it's accomplished.
     
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    No I am offering this as an indicator of what is out there demonstrating his past behaviours
     
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    He won't / does not learn. That has been shown repeatedly. People who don't learn from previous experiences are mentally impaired. They also show evidence of sociopathy.

    Hopeshe sues him again. Hope hehas to pay even more. (MONEY is his Achilles heel) without it he is NOTHING.
     
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    You are RIGHT He is uncontrollable. He also cannot control impulsiveness to get verbal revenge , shame, criticize, or defame. This kind of poor impulse control is pathological ( psychologically)

    The LAST thing one wants in the role of POTUS is someone with such poor impulse control. Poor emotional management. And very poor judgement.

    His supporters don't seem to want to learn either. They defend and excuse his irrational conduct .
     
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    He doth protest too much .....
     
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