Most terrifying poll result I've ever seen

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  1. Turtledude

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    I would note that the majority of people who make over 100K a year supported Trump over Biden. now this 1% might be another demographic.
     
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    Are you going to repeat that and prove again that you don't understand how the president selected in this nation?
     
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    What you don't seem to understand is that I DON'T CARE, to me the popular is the ONLY legitimate vote that should count when electing the POTUS.
     
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    we don't care. we support the EC and the wisdom of the founders. And guess what, long after both you and I are gone, the EC will still be in place, The cesspools of places like California and NY continue to convince states such as Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, etc to keep the EC in place.
     
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    And yet you still support tRatior tRump; whom has zero character, zero integrity and, is most notable for his lack of honesty. :shock:
     
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    Yep, negating voters.
     
  7. Turtledude

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    the concept of a united STATES of America seems hard for some to understand. they seem to think that states weren't the independent governing bodies that created this nation. and yes, I don't support some people voting. I don't support those who suck on the public teat being able to vote up the taxes of others.
     
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    I, and many others, reject this factually bereft characterization of Trump.
     
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    Negating voters you say? Well every damn day a voter is negated with the wide ass open border.....and your mail ballot president is doing it on purpose. The Electoral College (EC) and Congressional Districts (CD) are apportioned according to the Census. ALL democrats are in favor of counting illegals in the Census and thus the illegals are negating citizen's votes with EC and CD apportionment. IF illegals are taken out of the Census, it is estimated that blue states will lose about 18 Congressional seats. That would mean Republicans would have a wide majority now instead of a couple of seats, for example. So while the conversation is about liberals cheating and rigging elections (like in 2020), the rigging is going on as we speak. They intend to steal more seats in Congress with this influx of illegals....as will come to fruition in the next Census if the Repubtards can't get this Census issue fixed.
     
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    yep, plus more EC votes for the blue states that are filling up with illegals.
     
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    That's what I said. Republicans basically have to win the equivalent of Pennsylvania extra to win the election.
     
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    the EC sort of softens the impact-California could let all the illegals vote and if we had a popular vote that would almost guarantee the dems would win in any somewhat close election
     
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    And if you let in millions more illegals to California and California gains 10 more Congressional Districts and thus 10 more Electoral College votes, like it matters about the popular vote because you are skewing in the same direction. The result is the same. A new state would have to be won by a Republican to win. Sooner or later you run out of states. Imagine if California and New York held 200 EC votes between them.
     
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    Yes, that is all very concerning.

    But also... Why Democrats are losing Black, Hispanic voters to the right (axios.com)

    I don't think 'axios' has correctly identified the cause of minorities switching parties.

    Its true that a lot of migrants are coming here for the handouts. And they'll vote for the source of the handouts- Democrats.

    But also there's a lot of people coming because they've seen what bureaucratic authoritarian collectivism generates, and they're voting against it (and thus against the D party). They can 'census' all they want, but oppressed peoples only need a small taste of freedom to realize they want more. Buying votes with welfare is the short game. The long game is people realizing they don't want disconnected white elitist authoritarians telling them how to live. Freedom wins the long game. We just have to keep it alive long enough. And the ~billion guns We The People have make freedom very hard to kill.
     
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    35% is approximately the percentage of Democrats/Progressives in todays voting public. Progressives believe in postmodernism though process in which what is true and integrity are a personal decisions. Progressives believe that those who do not agree with them are evil and so any means necessary to destroy those who do not agree with them is justified. And it is the highest form of integrity to engage in election fraud to prevent those who do not agree with them from winning elections.
     
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    I keep hearing about how blacks and hispanics (especially) are switching parties. I remember when Dubya got 40% of the hispanic vote.

    You know what happens when you get 40% of the hispanic vote? The democrats get the other 60% and 60% wins every time. And that my friends is why the democrats want a wide open border. 60%.

    Bush Sr won California in 1988. A republican or RINO will never do it again.

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    12 years later with 40% hispanics:

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    Left wing McCarthyism is alive and well in the United States. Not since the 1950's has there been such an organized corruption of the justice system in the US. This fact explains in part the results of the poll in the OP.

    Dershowitz, Alan. War on Woke: Why the New McCarthyism Is More Dangerous Than the Old (pp. 82-84). Hot Books. Kindle Edition.
     
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    The OP makes a false correlation. Republicans can approve of what a Democrat president does just as many rich Democrats approved of Reaganomics. Further, even T****ite's could approve of policies that make them money and are part of Biden's programs. Keep in mind his presidency has made them a lot of money.
    So theoretically all of the 35% could be Republicans and more precisely T**** fanatics. Of course I don't believe that, money corrupts many but the OP would have us believe it's a massive problem of rich Democrats and that doesn't seem to be shown in the cites from the study.
     
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    Are you suggesting a lot of Trump supporters "live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees—are overwhelmingly liberal" and "give President Joe Biden an 82% approval rating, compared to his 40% average from the rest of Americans"?
     
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    Very interesting results .. freaken scary as well.

    No surprise that those with higher education are more likely to find some justification for the ethical breach .. .. the lower classes always more religious than the Upper.

    This however, is not the scary part .. the scary part is the ridiculously high number who are willing to accept the lie, lies, lying.

    Why is this so terrifying ? Quoting from Jordan Peterson " I have been studying Totalitarianism all my life and the one thing that is consistent is that everything becomes a lie" .. Orwell talked about this as well. In Romania under communism 1 in 4 people were part of the secret service .. so in a family of 4 chances are that one of your family members was spying on you --- privacy rights degraded - freedom of speech non existent.

    So .. with Totalitarianism come Lying .. Propaganda goes hands in hand .. thus .. the higher acceptance of lying tells you that we are descending into that end of the spectrum once again .. the people accepting it.

    In Achaemenid Persia, the lie, drauga (in Avestan: druj), is considered to be a cardinal sin and it was punishable by death in some extreme cases.

    Persian Empire is one of the greatest the world has known .. at its height was a beacon humanity in a Sadistic world..
    The Three Groundbreaking Human Rights Decrees of Cyrus the Great
    The Three Groundbreaking Human Rights Decrees of Cyrus the Great (thevintagenews.com)

    Thus the cycle of rise and fall of empire continues .. and the canaries in the coal mine of Empire are telling us that we are on the downslope of the curve..

     
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    I am stating that while some T**** supporters are rich and that they may approve Biden's policies that make them richer. To say that all or even most of the ones in favor of Biden's fiscal policies must be Democrats is a false assumption.
     
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    That's pretty rich, posted by someone who thinks that Trump won the 2020 election. A question to you: Trump trying to overturn the election and being egged on to do so by millions of supporters wasn't an attempt at cheating? Fake electors, no cheating? Trying to seize voting machines, no cheating? Pressuring elections officials to find votes for him, no cheating? And, if he had succeeded, you'd be perfectly happy with Trump being in office after having cheated his way in there.
     
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    So you're saying rich people don't mind rigging the system in their favor?

    Isn't that the entirety of the GOP 2024 presidential campaign?
     
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    Some.
    But do go on and describe the violence Clinton supporters undertook to overturn the election.

    Sometimes when one paints with a wide brush he gets paint where he didn't intend.
     
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    Name the last time a conservative DIDN'T try to steal an election.
     

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