Most terrifying poll result I've ever seen

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    The tax the rich proponents usually demagogue and obfuscate it by conflating income with wealth. A person might be worth $50 million and would have maybe only $2.5 million income and pay $750,000 in income taxes. So the naysayers say the $50 million guy pays only 1.5% income tax -- not near enough.
     
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    If he's worth 50 million then he should be taxed for 50 million.
     
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    ...... The Constitution be damned.
     
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    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
     
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    Personally.... I agree with the idea that the only way that Biden could possibly have won in 2020 was to cheat and cheat and cheat and cheat......

    .. at levels never seen previously.


    How many counties did Biden win? Less than any other president — but he still received more votes than Trump
    Pro-Trump groups claim ‘something doesn’t seem to add up’ while promoting misinformation about the national vote


    .....

    https://www.upworthy.com/election-fraud-counties-math-explainer


    Yes, Biden won with only 16% of U.S. counties. No, that's not mathematically impossible.


     
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    I haven't really encountered that, nor was it my issue with the OP. Accumulated wealth is generally post-tax - it's assets/other acquired from incomes taxed in the past. The phenomenon of wealth accumulation is used to point out how the rich didn't really need all of their income as much as the poor do. Maybe that's the argument you're encountering.
     
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    My point was really that the concept is a red herring. Applying for asylum is legal. Entering outside of a port of entry is illegal and for good reasons. The two things aren't related in any way. Like most people I support immigration and asylum. I just want it done legally for those good reasons.
     
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    No if he EARNS 50 million in a year then he should be taxed on that. We don't tax wealth.
     
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    I know we don't, we should.
     
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    I agree, and the polls showing President Trump and Joe Biden neck to neck are equally corrupt.
     
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    So how is it you think you can include wealth as income??
     
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    From whatever source derived.
     
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    So you want government to tax your savings account?
     
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    It ain't rocket science. The amendment reads the government can collect taxes on income from whatever source [the income is] derived. Wealth isn't in the same universe.
     
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    Go ahead, ain't much in there.
     
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    Republicans are more principled and virtuous? :lol:
    There are too many variables for you to make this call.
    Your solution is what?
     
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    Assumes facts not in evidence--that something has been done tp Trump unfairly.
    How are you going to get these guys? Trump didn't.
    Fact not in evidence.
    It would be nice to weed out corruption. Old Joe snd Trump won't do it.
     
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    I would change the language to, "Cheating is okay if it is our guy. Biden is our guy. What are you going to do about it. That's what I thought."
     
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    'The data from the Economic Policy Institute (EPI) shows that in 2021 annual wages for the top 1% reached $819,324'

    'Top 10% of Earners $167,639'

    https://www.investopedia.com/personal-finance/how-much-income-puts-you-top-1-5-10/

    The elite 1%—individuals who make over $150,000 a year, live in densely populated areas, and have postgraduate degrees—are overwhelmingly liberal....[/QUOTE]
     
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    Like Democrats did for the previous three where a Republican won
     
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    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

    AND evidence is coming out that perhaps The Washington Swamp.....

    .. .and the Ottawa Swamp.......

    ARE DIVIDED......

    and a solid ten percent..... maybe even twenty percent of the most highly paid members of the Ottawa Swamp and the Washington Swamp.......

    are TIRED of obsequiously obeying highly unethical orders............

    I am convinced that Dr. Otto Warburg... in 1924 to 1931 told the truth about CANCER......

    .... and I believe that even the most well paid people in the Washington and / or the Ottawa Swamp........

    has at least one person who they genuinely care about.........

    and they are TIRED of hiding cures to cancer........ diabetes......... stroke........ autism........ and on and on and on and on and on the list goes!!!!!!


    ..."cancer cells are anaerobic (do not breathe oxygen)cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen, as found in an alkaline state." (Dr. Otto Warburg, written in 1924 to 1931)




    Are C.E.O's over paid? If so... why?


    ?
    Why would you suspect that C.E.O's are paid so much?
    1. *
      Probably to lie and perform other unethical acts
      3 vote(s)
      60.0%

    2. C.E.O's must be the best of the best of the best of the best!
      1 vote(s)
      20.0%

    3. C.E.O's are like movie stars... and they need to be paid similar amounts of money
      0 vote(s)
      0.0%

    4. C.E.O's learn company secrets that are extremely valuable so.....
      0 vote(s)
      0.0%

    5. If C.E.O's are not paid a lot they may be grabbed by a different company... demand and supply
      1 vote(s)
      20.0%
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    EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!

    If an honest poll was done based on the average salary...... directly or indirectly from the USA Democratic Party.......... paid to the people who actually attended a Biden rally...... I am thinking it would average out to be in the range of one hundred thousand or so????????


    ......


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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...f-you-agree-with-that.618124/#post-1074762648
     
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