Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

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  1. Pisa

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    Sorry for the delay. Technical problems.

    You think that Israelis, with nearly 200,000 internally displaced refugees and large agricultural lands in the south and north rendered useless by constant rocket, anti-tank missiles, and drone attacks, plus infiltration attempts from Syria and Lebanon, don't need humanitarian help. Cute.

    Men and women on the front lines have abandoned businesses and lost their and their families' livelihoods, but nobody in Israel needs humanitarian help. Wow.

    How about the Israeli hostages in Gaza? Don't they need humanitarian help? Are they well-fed and housed these days? How about medical care?
     
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    Not zero need in Israel, but on the other hand, if you had to choose which kind of civilian to be in this conflict, it's not a hard choice.
     
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    They can also choose to have $9b in food or weapon aid a year from sugar daddy but like the ppl we know they are and the mask slips, they chose weapons of mass destruction.
     
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    Nope.

    The data reveals that on October 7, 38 children lost their lives, with three of them aged between 0 and 3 years old, and four between 3 and 6 years old. ​

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/isra...ren-killed-on-october-7-thousands-traumatized

    Your sources lie.
     
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    Don't they always?
     
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    Why "in this conflict"? In the best of times, I wouldn't choose to live under a brutal dictatorial theocratic terrorist regime.

    You're saying that individuals should be treated differently depending on where they live. Wouldn't such an approach justify atrocities against people who live "in the wrong place"?
     
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    but yet you support the brutal dictatorial terrorist regime right ? how does that work ?
     
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    Epic fail. As usual.
     
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    The blind leading the blind
     
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    Didn't elyon levy just get sacked for lying?

    Do you even know who he is or are you just a :cheerleader:
     
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    I didn't say anything about treating people differently based upon where they live. I'm saying it sucks a lot more to be a palestinian civilian than any Israeli civilian, with the exception of the hostages. Yeah, Gaza was already worse to live in, but they are suffering orders of magnitude more during this conflict than 99.9% of Israelis.
     
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    Well, having a terrorist organization as government sucks.
     
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    My source is the Israeli government. Thank you for admitting the Israeli government lies.

    Go ahead! Post the list of names!

    I'll be waiting. I think forever.
     
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    Thank you for admitting the Israeli government always lies.
     
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    Generally speaking, in the U.S., openly bragging about one's money is considered rude. However, many people are so proud of the money they have, they can't help but brag about it anyway. I just thought you'd be equally proud about the way you earned your money. I guess I was wrong. Regardless, you brought it up, so it was not rude of me to ask.
     
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    Post a link to your source.

    Pictures and names:
    https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/by65800qmt

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    Do something about it then, go to the voting booth!

    Smh.
     
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    It's plausible that these children were killed by IDF tank shells.

    One of those children, at least, we know was. Liel. She was blown up by an IDF tank according to y@smin por@t, a Jewish eyewitness and resident that was captured but released the same morning
     
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    Show me a need that the Israeli govt and private charity cannot and is not fulfilling. The difference is that there is an existing govt structure with a social safety net, a secure revenue source and the capacity to deliver its own aid to its own citizens and charity organisations can fill any gaps, because the ground fighting is not happening on Israeli soil and disrupting access to aide.

    As for those hostages. If you are asking a question about whether there is a need that a humanitarian aid package can fill, because you don't know that they are being starved or denied medical care, then you already have your answer about sending federallly funded humanitarian aide to meet a need you don't know exists.

    Your problem is that the winners in active warfare, the invading forces that are pushing forward, tend not to starve and attack their own population. They have gone somewhere else to do their damage and that is where most civilian victims are to be found. I am also not in favor of a federally funded aide package to Russia either but I will rethink it when the Ukrainian army seals off and invades Moscow

    Next time don't pretend to be stupid here with some false equivilancy ****.
     
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    38=36?
    3=1?
    4=5?

    Is this Israeli math?

    Alon Even16, Ido Even 14, Lior Tarshenski 16, Tel Keren 17, Sage Zak (15 not 14), Noya Dan (Not murdered at home.) 13, Tahel Bira (Not murdered at home.) 15, Carmel Bachar 15, Rafael Meir 12, Or Taasa Netiv 17 not 16, and Tamar 9 (heart attack) were not on my list.

    Shahar was not 2 years younger than her twin sister.

    I'm still waiting for the one year old and two year old killed on October 7 which still don't exist. This, of course, was the key point I was making. You'all haven't been using the 17-year-olds to support your belief that slaughtering WCK workers is ok. It was all the babies which were killed, but weren't. And you still haven't supplied those names. A one-year-old and a two-year-old.

    And mind you, 36/1169 = 3%. The exact percentage percentage I claimed before. I know the number claimed was 38 and I used that number even though the list I had compiled months ago did not have all the names. For me, the list of young children and infants needed to be more correct as that is what was being used by you and the others on this forum to justify the slaughter of Palestinian children and babies.

    About 40% of the those killed in Gaza are children. The idea that Hamas ran into Israel trying to kill anything which moved while Israel is trying really hard to avoid civilian casualties is silly and stupid.

    Now, although you failed to provide the list you advertised, I do thank you for helping me complete mine.
     
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    Now mind you, If a real investigation had occurred into October 7, the names and circumstances of death would be readily available. Those accused of their murder would be listed as well as specific charges. Unfortunately, just like 9/11, there is no justice going on, just bloodthirsty vengeance against all perceived enemies. And so, the Israelis made up the stories necessary to justify a bloodthirsty ethnic cleansing in Gaza. This turned into a genocide when the Gazans failed to take the hint and force a border crossing into Egypt.

    And occasionally, Israel steps into it and accidentally does something which causes the western world to actually take notice like the WCK murders.
     
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    Oh please. It's antisemitic to ask Israeli Hasbara to even suggest that the IDF murdered innumerable Jewish kibbutz residence!

    iMean not even western press has ever suggested this.

    Let that sink in...then realise the parasite that is suppressing freedom of speech.
     
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    "Antisemitic" is a misnomer, given that most Semites are not Jews and include Palestinians, and not all Jews are Semites anyway. A better term is "antizionist".
     
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    What part of "constant rocket, anti-tank missiles, and drone attacks" led you to believe that Israelis are not experiencing the effects of the war? Why are you dismissing terror attacks against Israelis?

    Israel is a member of the international community, and it should be treated as such. Surviving victims of the October 7th attack should have been treated the same as surviving victims of atrocities in the rest of the world. The various UN bodies didn't even bother to mention the Israeli hostages, the rapes, the torture and killing of Israeli children, and the daily rocket attacks on Israeli civilians. The Red Cross and all the other so-called aid organizations completely ignored Israeli civilians - whole families, including children and grandparents - being taken hostage by terrorists. The freed hostages tell harrowing stories of starvation, beatings, rape, and murder, yet no international body, of all those oh so concerned about the well-being of innocent Palestinians, cares about the fate of innocent Israeli hostages.

    Don't bother answering me. Your post is a perfect example of how useless hypocrites pretend to care about Palestinians because they hate Israel.
     
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