Aid to Gaza suspended after Israel murders World Central Kitchen workers

Exactly. In war, almost nothing is locked in concrete. Life and death decisions are often made with incomplete, even erroneous information. Yo do the best you can and make decisions based on "best available data".

 

You're dreaming.

The notification procedure is that of the IDF, including the lead time they require. It doesn't involve Netanyahu - it's the IDF. Coordination takes place significantly before the travel, as it is conditioned on the IDF confirmation of the permission request.

This was an air operation, not a ground operation. Look at the vehicles. They were hit by single projectiles from the sky.

This event was a MAJOR support for Israel's plan of war - to use starvation as a weapon. It is consistent with numerous past acts used for stalling aid. The northern crossings fare blocked, the Rafah crossing is a slow walk, Israel has falsely claimed that aid groups have Hamas embedded, which ends or delays international support. The result is a serious reduction in aid, as such groups can not be supported by most nations and aid groups can not send their people to the Israeli slaughter.

Occasionally they also use snipers to kill starving Palestinians waiting for or receiving aid delivery.

You are dreaming. There is great consistency in Israel's approach to its genocide. IN NO CASE has Israel shown ANY mercy in allowing Palestinians to live.

 

Israel's genocide does not show ANY evidence of this problem. What they have done is methodical.

 

Is this because you believe as the following rabbi believes - there are no civilians?

Israeli rabbi says ‘kill everyone in Gaza, including babies’ (thecradle.co)

Not a great comparison, but for a different reason. Israel is not conducting a war in Gaza. Israel is committing genocide.

Umm, no. In fact, the opposite occurred. Those in the countryside fled to the city. The city was filled with refugees before it was attacked. About half a million or more as the first bombs were dropped in the city. Some estimate as high as 900,000 in the city just before it was attacked. The Soviet evacuation did not start until after the attack had already started. Germans evacuated 187,000 to work camps.

 

Who cares what some random rabbi says? The only goal of genocide belongs to Hamas.

If you wish to discuss Stalingrad start a new thread.

 

Your daughters Boss telling her to put out or be fired has nothing to do with rights of personal bodily autonomy -- Unbelievable the Left hypocrisy .. "my body my choice" only for things they agree with .. cancelling out the stuff they don't .. blatant hypocrisy.

And yeah mate ... what Christian would deny healthcare ? but what has this to do with the Fascist Brown shirts on the left .. Was it Red's hatred for essential liberty that caused Blue to fall ? what a joke

 

The IOF is helping him spread his message. Why don't you ask them?

Standard Hasbara projection.

This is my thread. I successfully pointed out that you support a civilian casualty rate worse than Hitler and Stalin. And you were supporting that casualty rate because you're trying to justify the murder of people who were simply trying to feed the hungry. You lost the argument. If you don't like it, start your own thread.

 

Thursday, April, 2024
BREAKING: Israel to open more aid routes to Gaza and increase deliveries after pressure from Biden, White House says
Israel announced that it would take steps to increase the flow of aid to Gaza, a White House official said, after President Joe Biden suggested in a phone call to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that the U.S. could condition military aid to Israel over the humanitarian crisis.

A spokesperson for the White House National Security Council said that Israel had committed to opening the Erez border crossing to let aid flow into northern Gaza, as well as opening the Ashdod port to allow assistance to be directly delivered into Gaza and significantly boosting deliveries from Jordan.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...Stp+GfuxwgZtX9tnCHoHeoRJNqi0ovO/ef90xL/5OAQAA


We will see if they follow through. Looks like Biden gave them an offer , they could not refuse

 

Do you or anyone here know how many civilians in Gaza have been killed?? Also....does anyone know how many members does Hamas have now . ( compared to before the attack in Israel)

 

So, Israel was blocking aid.

 

Hamas was blocking aid. It all started in 2007 when after Hamas violently took control of Gaza and started launching rockets at Israeli civilian neighborhoods which was an act of war and a war crime.

 

Ther press has nothing to write about except this or the bridge cleanup. Those aid workers need to learn this is a war going on and you don't go riding around in the middle of the night during it.

 

No they found they have to open more areas because aid workers are slow and can't get anything done in real time. That is why nobody, but other liberals will hire them.

 

Yes. It’s tragic that it happened but none of the deaths in Gaza would have happened without the violent overthrow of the Palestinian Authority by Hamas after Israel left in 2005 and then began the continuous attacks on Israeli civilians starting in 2007.

 

There is a lower number. Basically confirmed deaths with identification numbers and names.

That number is 33,494. This number includes all deaths. This is the lowest possible number of deaths. The death toll is likely much, much higher. So high, Biden is worrying about his legacy.

Gazans doesn't have a military. (or air force, or navy.) Everyone killed is a civilian. You might consider them civilians who are criminals, but they are still just civilians.

How many French were members of the French resistance? How many South Vietnamese were members of the South Vietnamese resistance?

I doubt Hamas knows how many Hamas there are. They are all likely decentralized and able to work independently.

The Israeli definition of Hamas is any male 13 years or older plus any females or children which annoy them.

You're asking the wrong question. Every Palestinian and Gazan is a possible Hamas member and/ or recruit. There will never be a shortage of new Hamas members. So, if you're pro-Israel and don't just want to slaughter as many Palestinians as you can but still have no morals, you're going to want to do as the British did in '36. Kill all the leaders, including teachers, scientists, any doctors of note, all reporters, anyone with charisma, business owners, factory owners, and, of course, rebel leaders. Basically, the same thing Stalin did at the Katyn Massacre. It's still a lot of people but it will likely hamper any resistance for decades.

Israel has actually been trying to perform their own version of a Katyn Massacre. In addition, Israel wants to kick the Gazans out of Gaza. To this end, they have targeted anything which the Gazans might recognize as part of their home. This means destroying what Israel calls "Power structures." This includes all tall buildings, hospitals, bakeries, factories, farms, universities, schools, water treatment plants, churches, mosques, etc.

Hamas is still posting every week combat operations throughout the Gazan strip. About 1,609 "Hamas" were killed during the Al-Aqsa flood according to Israel.

 

So your argument is that the third reich (including the SS) and the Red Army are the most moral military organizations in history??

 

Hamas is not a civilian organization. Over 15,000 Hamas terrorists have been killed in Gaza. The Gazan Ministry of Health is controlled by Hamas and doesn't split out Hamas terrorists. Most of the 33,000 are Hamas or direct supporters of Hamas. This was admitted by Hamas in response to the Goldstone Report of 2009 when there was a public outcry over women and children killed which Hamas did not protect.. Children are defines as anyone under the age of 19. Hamas recruits teenagers to serve as human shields in attacks against the IDF now operating in the Gaza Strip. There are only four operational Hamas battalions (3000 - 4000 terrorists) in Gaza and they are all located in Rafah. There are pockets of Hamas terrorists hiding in tunnels and underground shelters which are being eradicated now by IDF forces.

 

So where did you find that out?

 

Aid doesn't get into Gaza without Israel opening it up and examining it.

The entrances to Gaza used for aid are often closed, and Israel slow walks the inspections.

You are CLEARLY failing to inform yourself of even the most basic issues.

 

Which nation are they the military of?

Oh boy! A nice round Hasbara number. (sarc.)

The Gazan ministry of Health has been reporting verifiably accurate numbers for quite some time. Israel and the U.S. has always agreed with their numbers after they finished killing their share of Palestinian children.

Well, your quote has shown that what I said before is a very accurate description of what Israeli's consider to be Hamas.

Boy oh boy . . . I wish you'd spend some time to write better. In the above sentence you're saying that Hamas admitted in 2009 that a casualty figure in 2024 was mostly Hamas . . . wow! That's just silly but I don't think you actually meant to say that. It's probably just bad writing.

Bar Mitzvahs must be an Israeli inside joke then. (sarc.)

Hasbara's still encouraging this silly projection?

What is a ‘human shield’ and why is Israel using the term in Gaza? | Israel War on Gaza News | Al Jazeera

So, what was all that fighting over by al-Shifa hospital?

Was it just an excuse to blow up stuff and murder people . . . ?

And why were the WCK vehicles targeted again?

Oh, don't forget all the Hamas joy-riding in white Suburbans on open roads, slowly along the coast headed to a pier along the coast. (sarc. I'm labeling it for others who might have difficulty recognizing sarcasm.)

Nope.

 

Thank you , Bob.

What would you like to see?? Total antihalation of the Gaza area in revenge for that terrorist attack?? Overkill??? At some point some semblance of humanity has to shine through...or Israel won't be much better than the terrorists that attacked them.

 

The aid is inspected for war materials. Again these delays are the result of Hamas acts of war and war crimes. Hamas is to blame for the human suffering in the Gaza Strip.

 

Did you see a video of the IDF soldier holding the Palestinian mother and father at gunpoint? He took their 1 year old child from the mother and the 2 year old child from the father, placed them on the ground in front of the parents, poured gasoline on them and set them on fire while their parents were forced to watch. Then those evil Israeli people were cheering in the streets afterwards, their women screaming like caterwauling cats in heat.

Oh! Wait a minute.... that was Palestinian soldiers on 10/7. My bad. You were saying something about overkill and humanity? I'll get back to you when I have some tears left to shed for a people so devoid of humanity as to produce such psychotic murderers then laud such behavior. Honestly, I have no tear ducts left to shed any tears for the murder supporting people of Palestine. The civilized people of the world are just done caring about them. They've had all the chances they are going to get to live in peace. It is just NOT something they are capable of doing. There are no more options as I see it. They gotta go.

 

Hamas is a terrorist organziation supported by Iran. Their charter specifies genocide of Jews and destruction of the nation of Israel. The admission by Hamas that most of the claimed women and children were actually Hamas terrorists is their MO. Hamas uses their charter as justification for attacking civilians and using civilians as human shields. Gazans want Hamas to leave. The IDF is not only fighting to protect Israeli civilians but also to protect Gazan civilians. That's the reality of the Gaza Strip since 2007.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/al-shi...9dc0135b#:~:text=On Dec. 8,into Hamas’s hands.

 

The people of Gaza would like to see the remaining 4 battalions of Hamas terrorists (~ 3000 Hamas terrorists) currently residing in Rafah eradicated as an organized terrorist force.