What freedoms has the side you oppose attempted or succeeded at denying you?

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    That argument is so ****ing lame.

    But, in response, I say: if they're too dangerous to own guns, they should be in prison. Right?
     
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  2. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Are blacks inferior to White people?
     
  3. Cybred

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    So you CAN infringe on a persons right to bear arms.
     
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    Cybred Well-Known Member

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    If someone else deliberately puts obstacles in your way that prevent you from doing something does that mean you are incapable of doing it?
     
  5. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    It's an infringement.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Sure you can. Any limitation on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms is an infringement.
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    If they have been adjudicated yes that's what the adjudication system is. Pretty much all of your rights can be violated if the proper due process is done.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    A right should be freedom from anybody putting obstacles in your way. This is why something like a license to free speech is unacceptable or permission to be secure in your person papers and belongings is unacceptable.

    It shouldn't be my burden to prove that I'm capable of having a gun it should be the government's burden to prove that I'm not that's what adjudication is.
     
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    Then any gun ban is fine as long as due process has been followed.
     
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    The left is attempting to take away my right to have, own and use a GAS STOVE. The bill of rights are of course important...but the attempt to make Gas Stoves nonexistant has me ticked. And probably some gas stove loving liberals too.
     
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    Not a right.
     
  12. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The left, in many places, has taken away school choice.

    They're trying to take away my cars and appiances.

    Of course, the left has trampled on free speech.

    With all else being equal, the left has made it harder for my son to advance in anything because he's the wrong color.

    I don't have the right of choice to where I go to school or what I buy? Regarding your third point, why do some people get bonus points because of what they identify as? What purposes are served by check boxes and DEI?

    Regarding my third point, it's so obvious that even you can't deny it.
     
  13. Cybred

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    No you don't. And no the left hasn't trampled on free speech.
     
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  14. Steve N

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    Yes, the left has trampled on free speech, see Twitter and Facebook. The thing is, when the left shouts all kinds of lies, insults and other nasty stuff, the left calls it free speech. When the right says something the left doesn't like, they either censor it or call it hate speech.
     
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    No, because a gun ban violated the rights of law abiding people.

    The 5th Amendment says: "No person shall...be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law".

    It doesn't say "The people".
     
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    So facebook and twitter are govt owned and operated.
     
  17. Steve N

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    No, facebook and twitter just censor people at the request of the government.
     
  18. Cybred

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    Sorry but asking is not trampling.
     
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    Nope. He said his 2nd Amendment rights were taken away. That implies he has no more 2nd Amendment rights, which is a complete lie. Carry on.
     
  20. Steve N

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    I believe threats from the government were involved. Do you recall Schiff making demands of social media to not allow certain content?
     
  21. Cybred

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    Nope.
     
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    Well, you see Billy, on this^^^, we are in full agreement.:thumbsup:
     
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    The left doesn't believe an individual has the right to make their own decisions. The left doesn't think that individual choice is a right.

    The left believes that there are those in power better able to make those decisions for the populous.
     
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    Off the top of my head the 1st and 2nd Amendments are the biggest ones.

    The 2nd falls under the attempted category. Yes I will acknowledge that Trump did absolutely ban bump stocks while Biden hasn't technically banned anything that I know of. However lets cut the crap, if Democrats could bypass legality and EO an "assault weapons ban" at the Federal level they absolutely would. Most of them from Representatives to Senators to Presidential candidates campaign on that very ban during each election cycle. The only thing stopping them from doing that is the fact that they simply can't get it through Congress and probably not passed the Supreme Court at this point.

    The 1st falls under succeeded. "Hate speech" regulations, while technically on the individual corporation but are pressured for by the government. IE the way Twitter used to be run before Elon saved it with stuff like misgendering bans and other nonsense. The Government being in cahoots with news organizations and social media outlets to censor stories and/or push certain narratives. The whole COVID debacle with the government getting involved with social media to regulate "misinformation". Also the forced acceptance of certain things and/or denying ones ability to speak out against certain things by both government agencies or private organizations. Yes "hate speech" or "insensitive" speech is protected speech. Pissing you off should be legal. I 100% unequivocally support the KKK obtaining the proper legal protest and burn permits required and going in the middle of town square with their little costumes and burning a cross while chanting they hate me. And I'm black. I would 100% fight against anybody or any law who tried to make such a thing illegal because it's "hateful". This is America, you are allowed to be hateful we have a 1st Amendment. If Democrats had a magic wand they would absolutely ban such things. Again, they campaign on these sorts of things by advocating for stronger "hate speech" regulations to protect "marginalized peoples" like LGBT and minorities. Democrat run college campuses do that all the time, and while yes "the school board can make whatever rules they want for their school" the folks who push for rules like that are almost universally Left on the political spectrum.

    Notice I said "almost" universally Left. That crap Greg Abbot just pulled in Texas with his "antisemitism" protection bill is just as bad as what the Left pulls all the time. As an American citizen I should absolutely have the freedom to openly deny the Holocaust and say I hate Jews (I don't) if I want to just like I should be able to say trans women are still men and there are only 2 genders. We already have laws regarding threatening and/or harassing folks, we don't need "special" laws for certain demographics. Now do I personally want to go out with a bullhorn and shout either of the aforementioned things I stated? No. Should I be legally allowed to? Absolutely.
     
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    They're attempting to deny my candidate the ability to campaign without interference, so they are essentially trying to deny my right/freedom to vote for the candidate of my choice when they tried to remove Trump from many states' ballots.
     
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