teacher suspended for non-liberal opinion about same sex marriage

That would be for the powers that be to decide. They made the decision on hate crimes. That is a legal issue. I have stated several times I have not seen his complete post until I do i will certainly reserve comment on that.

You keep making this a gay issue and it is an issue about decorum of speech by a teacher that his students are able to access. I nave accused him of hate speech you will have to go back to see. If that is what he is accused of than the rules or teaching guidelines would apply or any laws of the land.

There are many things that someone can say referring to gays that could well be considered hate speech. Whether they are or not depends on where the person is.

 

It doesn't violate free speech. Hate speech is unfairly maligning a group over something they cannot control. Here is a textbook definition "Verbal, written, and symbolic acts that convey a grossly negative view of particular persons or groups based on their gender, ethnicity, race, religion, sexual orientation, or disability."
Homosexuality and racism are perfect examples. Asking who gets to decide seems like you are expressing skepticism over morality, but I'm not sure. Would you ask the same sort of question if the man had made derogatory claims about African Americans? Well well who gets to decide what he said is hate speech towards them? No, clearly you would not. Many people defended slavery in the past using the same kind of arguments people use today against homosexuality. Oh it's not natural for African Americans to be equal. It's not natural for races to mix (insert same-sex). It's the same basic structure with some details changed. That's why it ALL falls under hate speech.

You're also showing how ill informed you are on the most up to date scientific research. Homosexuality is considered normal and something a small percentage of the population is. I posted a few links on here somewhere, but this thread is so big I can't remember where. But google APA and sexual orientation and find out for yourself. This information is EASILY accessible, and when I post it people just go into cognitive dissonance mode and confirmation bias and deny it, so research for yourself. Don't talk my word for it. Talk to people who study sexual orientation, scientists, psychologists and the like.

 

If you had actually read this thread you would have that answer.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,345274,00.html

Here was a teacher who took shots at Christians IN CLASS and the school did NOTHING.

And before you embarrass yourself again yes this teacher IS an atheist

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=7374

Again, IN CLASS and the school district did NOTHING. That's the double standard. Got it now?

 

It was his private opinion.
What he has been teaching in the classroom is that each and every student should defend what he/she believes in. Contrary to that, the school now goes against what he has instilled in those students, and basically says that no, you should not stand up for what you believe in, or you may get fired.
Don't have a backbone if its not PC.
How absurd is that?

BTW, the teacher should sue the school, if he hasn't already done so...
Remember, he spoke as a private person, on his facebook page, not at a school computer, not on school grounds, not during school hours.
The school, on the other hand, does this in official capacity.

So who is the offender?
http://www.usaeducationguides.com/guidance/articles/080707-glossary-academic-terms.jsp

 

If you want to continue the intellectual cowardice and refuse to defend the laughable claim you made I can't help you.

Quote the law. Go ahead. I love it when liberals like you fabricate laws for arguments.

Far better than you do.

Once again, far better than you do.

Ah, no I do not AND NEITHER DO YOU. So you ASSUME he's broken policy you've never read.

Doesn't get much dumber than that Chuckles.

Still the "I'm smarter than you" elitist nonsense. No surprise there.


You haven't seen the policy they speak of yet you condemn him on that policy. That has to be one the dumbest leaps of faith I've seen in this thread. And if you are going to quote hate crime legislation, quote the law he violated.

No more living in the world of theory junior. Time to put up or shut up.

 

Yes it is.
But lets flip this in its side and go further than that and say that no elected official or Gov/public funded worker (politicians, teachers, law enforcement, military) better make his/her preference known or champion any group, regarding religion or sexual orientation, or else be seen as biased and unfit for duty.
First person to go is Nancy Pelosi for attending a gay pride march.
She shows prejudice against heterosexual Christians and Muslims. We can't allow that, even if its not during office hours.

 

Ok, then complain to the school board. I would fire him, since teachers should not be in the business of hate.

Ive said that this whole thread.

WHY DONT YOU TRYING READING!

 

Again, teachers have no business preaching hate of any kind on a public forum of any kind.

 

What hate? Hate defined by the liberal sympathizers? That's not really a good benchmark to work from.

 

By that reasoning, no one in any public position better voice an opinion, one way or another. I find this being a 1st Amendment issue, not a teacher issue, but if you want to go there...
as a public employee, Waters D-Ca, should be fired post haste for wanting tea partiers go to hell.
Please, now!

 

I think it is time to have your mom and dad interpret what I have written or perhaps your kindergarten teacher may be better suited to relating to you.
Now I have not condemned him that is another problem having to do with your illiteracy.
Most of what you post has to do with the fact that you are unable to comprehend and evaluate the words put forth by another.
Again I never stated that he broke a law. Not once. You have no clue what you read. I think you should stop posting until you are at least able to read on your own. Go back and read my posts and then type something that is lucid. Until that time I am done responding to your twaddle asking and stating things that I have never typed. I may have made a huge discovery today. You might be the missing link between hominids and homo sapiens.

 

Leftist loser political correctness run amuck. The thought police and damm the constitution. He should sue their asses off, he will win.

 

As I stated before, you can post an opinion....But if you are in a public position such a teacher, you should be careful as to HOW you do.

I’m sorry this simple concept completely alludes you. I thought it would be an easy concept for people to understand.

 

So? The constitution only applies to those who do not work in the public sector. That is total leftninny goofythink. Plus, he is right as rain.

 

Oh lookie - its a card carrying memeber of the Catholic-Mafia.

It would figure the Catholic-Mafia, doesn't understand the word HOW.

 

So Waters is...hidden in the backrooms of Congress?
Or is it different because she is...? a Liberal, speaking out against people other than Liberals, what?

How many people here on PF are in ANY public position? What is someone does a background check on them?
Who is next? You, me? What is next? Mind control?

 

I'm not Catholic. HOW? Butt rangers are not what marriage is. And since that is clearly true, the teacher is right, and he has the right to say so in whatever venue he wishes to say it. Is that enough HOW for you?

 

One enjoys freedom of slurs in anonymity, while others are being censored.

 

Shes actually different because shes a politician and politicians are scum to begin with. I expect no less from politicians. They have led us down a finical road of destruction for the last 30 years and are hell bent to destroy this country financially.

I do expect and demand more of teachers. Teaching is an honorable profession, unlike being a politician.

And again: You are missing 'HOW' it is said.

 

Nope he shouldn't be fired nor reprimanded. His views are not too unmainstreem and it really all depends on what he said anyway. People have the right to their opinions. Wait until the wind changes and suddenly your own views can get your fired or arrested. I'm a supporter of gay marriage, but I'm also a supporter of people's right to their own opinions. That's what this country is about.

 

Im a computer programmer, I have no 'moral standard' tolive up too.

 

You are card carrying member of the Catholic-Mafia.

And as I stated before, SEVERAL TIMES: we all have the right to voice our opinions. Some people simply need to be careful on HOW they say it.

AS stated before, this should be an easy to comprehend, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

Then you accept the fact that people will have a different opinion than you?

 

What!!!??? No moral equivalency? You're losing your edge.

Teachers are the second line of education, and primary if the first fails. He is right and those who placed him on suspension are as wrong as two boys kissing. You can't get more wrong than that, unless you expect Obama to have moral values, which of course is way more wrong, but aside from being a valueless role model for the principlesless decision makers in this case, he is not directly involved.

 

But not to leftist losers, they hate this country and people who hold its values as the highest man has to offer. Leftists suck.