There are dozens of threads here to post to. Knock yourself out! Please don't blame others because you think you're wasting your time here.
Looks like you've made your choice. Not interested in getting along, I see. And this is pretty much what it boils down to. People that are used to defining a comfortable narrative that frames them as the victim and makes the other side the bad guy will typically become livid when the script gets flipped and they are suddenly forced to defend themselves. Because they're not used to doing it and they don't know how. They're so used to being on the attack all the time. So all they can really do is call names and make weak and baseless comparisons to Stormfront. These people can't have an honest dialogue because they are threatened by the very idea of one. Because the minute a crack appears in their victim veneer, they are forced to accept that they are responsible for their own circumstances. And that's a very uncomfortable epiphany for most people who have spent a large portion of their life being fueled by anger and victimhood. It feels a lot better to believe somebody owes you something and that everything that sucks about your life is somebody else's fault.
I didn't see anywhere in his post where he said that black folks should hate white folks. The problem with your line of thinking is, you believe that once slavery ended life was hunky dorry for black folks. Do you believe that when the Civil Rights Act was passed all racism and discrimination just blew away in the wind. Maybe you are just naive or playing that way, but there is still alot of racism in America today. Just take a look at the Justice System it is a prime example of that.
You missed something (as indicated by the above). I didn't say that I was wasting time, I said that what many people do on these threads is a "waste". If you can picture refuse being stuck under someone's foot... then that would be the appropriate. BTW, you are right about there being other threads. (Noted.)
One of the black men that conservatives love to trot out the most Clarence Thomas went to law school on a AA program, are you going to label him as an idiot as well. It amazes me how you cats will attack black folks with Harvard Law Degrees, but take a politician like Sarah Palin who has a Community College Degree and you will call her a genius.
Oh looky, your panties are in a knot. Relax. I didn't say all liberals are at fault, you claimed I did. I didn't say conservatives are blameless either. What is did say is bot races are to blame for the divisiveness... ...and I am saying Mr. Obama is a race-baiter. I also gave cites to support that claim. Furthermore, you baselessly accuse me of having "race-fantasies". I am accusing you here and now of trying to intimidate me and shut down the discussion. I don't bow to PC tyranny from the left. If you didn't know that by now, you've just been schooled. I invite you to peruse this thread, sir... My View: The Liberal Tactic of "Shut Up"
You are funny, superbadbrutha. You are the only one who has said Sarah Palin is a genius! Will you agree Michelle Obama failed Sidley-Austin at because she is a defective product of affirmative action? In the case of Michelle Obama, affirmative action did all three. The partners at Sidley Austin learned this the hard way. In 1988, they hired her out of Harvard Law under the impression that the degree meant something. It did not. By 1991, Michelle was working in the public sector as an assistant to the mayor. By 1993, she had given up her law license. Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed. -- Mychal Massie, syndicated op-ed black columnist
Nor did you see anywhere that I said or implied that Obama is "uppity". Theodelite was trying to impugn me with a racist label, and I put it right back on him. Once again a liberal trying to use The Liberal Tactic of "Shut Up", which I soundly reject for the ploy that it is. I've never said that or implied that. Are you the thought police? You can't SAY what I think. Nope, and it prolly never will for the reasons I've detailed: it feeds on itself. I've never said or implied that it "blew away with the wind". And as I've stated in this thread, it feeds on itself and comes from both sides AND creates self-perpetuating resentment. And that is from both sides also. The justice system has MANY flaws. Reference Mike Nifong, the OJ trial, and the Casey Anthony trial. Oh and don't forget about the New Black Panther voter intimidation case. That's ONE BIG ball of wax, and it works both ways. Did I say the New Black Panther voter intimidation case? Why yes, I did.
No, don't tell me when to relax. And yes, I know know exactly how to untie a "knot". I'm sharing my panty "knots" with YOU; perhaps unpleasant, but something I deem necessary at this point. You very often IMPLY ALL; that's enough for me, and I tied a "knot" just because of that. Get over it; your words have effects. Yet, you often IMPLY IT; there is one more "knot" tied in my ass-pants reflecting toward you. Okay, maybe you should be far-clearer about that from now on. Which you 'believe', but have in NO WAY proven. I'd say that other Conservatives (like Rush Limbaugh, who greatly influences the Republicans) have constructed a virtual 'Mother-ship' out of "race". It is literally sickening. I saw that BS interpretation of something (as if THAT were the 'final' or 'only' point to be made). LOL! You may have taken that as an implication, but no... I did not accuse YOU (per se). That's a great accusation, but no... I'm not out to do that either. I simply intend to HIT BACK at the very ideas or the meaning of the ideas being related here. I smell a LOT of BS (carefully-crafted, but BS nevertheless), and I think turning on a fan to blow the fumes around so ALL can sense it better... isn't always a 'bad' thing. Face the "fan". No thanks; there are multiple threads like that one, which I've already waded through.
I don't see what is so bad about her initial post. I mean IT IS the truth. There are a lot of black americans who seem to be very angry over nothing. Look at the progress black americans have made. This is the land of opportunity. You can do anything you want. Personally i am concerned that US representative of the democrat persuasion, of Both colors, seem to be blaming tea partiers for anything and everything. Flash mob (race riot) violence is on the increase and if we pretend it doesn't exist, is it gonna go away?? Black panther Samir Khan is teaching black youths IN THIS COUNTRY how to shoot and how to use a MACHETE....against whom do you suppose? Extraterrestrials? If we can't have a discussion without some of us having a case of diarrhea then what the h is wrong with US?
With all of the evidence, I would support the claim that racism is a part of Tea Party protests. And regarding the DOJ thing, I'm interested by an article by a libertarian from the American Enterprise Institute. I'll bold what I think is important. http://www.aei.org/article/102343 (I couldn't quote the entire article. The rest of it can be found on the link given.) In other words, this issue is more complex and nuanced than you're giving it credit for. In that light, the DOJ dropping the case isn't quite the race-based abomination.
I don't always intend to be nice about the things people say here. I won't pretend that many are not just breaking out their hammers/axes and wrecking whomever or whatever they might. My effort is (sometimes) to wreck whatever ideas I believe I must, as I see fit. Yes, I'll step on your ideas, but hopefully not any of the people participating here. In this forum we have racism, partisanship, outright hatred , fear and any number of very 'human' things being implied/expressed. Those don't always illicit 'positive' responses; sometimes it's political 'hard-ball' that is played here.
But you need to learn to properly discern what may 'appear' ("seem") to you to be anger "over nothing". You can't be naive about these things, an expect to get a decent view of what is actually going on.
It sure is, when lefty plants show up with racist signs and pretend to be Tea Party members. The Tea Party rejects racism. Thank you for the article. This is "nuanced" too.... the hell it is... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU"]"Security" patrols stationed at polling places in Philly - YouTube[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w36qWgK-jM"]New Black Panther Party Voter Intimidation AGAIN in 2010 - YouTube[/ame] And so is this: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZvPCy7OBRw&feature=related"]"The Cracker Hater" - The New Black Panthers and Obama's Post-Racial America - YouTube[/ame]
And this.... [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Weo3864s5vU&feature=related"]BLACK PANTHERS: KING SAMIR SAYS WHITES USE BLACK BABIES AS 'ALLIGATOR BAIT,' LAMENTS 'FOX JEWS'.flv - YouTube[/ame] Boy that's perpetuating bad race relations. WOW
What about it? You don't think that arresting a man for breaking into his own home should be considered stupid? Read the article. Didn't see where he said that the "Tea Party is racist too" or anything like that." You mean the one where the one was a certified poll watcher who was allowed to stay by the police investigating the incident? The one where no voters stepped forward to say that they were intimidated? How exactly is someone supposed to be convicted of "voter intimidation" if no actual voter intimidation occurred? What about the sacred right to bear arms? Would it have been different if traded his stick for an AR-15 with an extended clip? Feel free.
That's not the issue and you know it. It was the way Obama handled it. He said the police acted stupidly before he even knew the details. He put his foot in his mouth and his handlers almost wet their pants. If you're gonna be an annoying pest, I'm just gonna ignore you. In fact that's all you're here for, so I AM gonna ignore you. Pfft. Deflections won't work either.
actually she seems to be advocating leaving the past in the past and moving forward. There is not a single country, race, religion, etc on the planet that doesnt' have some deep dark crime in their past. it all boils down to this: do you believe that children should be punished for the crimes of their grandparents? Should you fine, imprison, confiscate belongings from a family because one hundred years ago someone in their family committed a crime? that's the crux.
Time for Race Relations 101: There are centifugal and centripetal forces at work in America on the question of race relations. As a consequence America is being torn apart on one level and put back together on another level. At individual street level White men and White women are getting together with Asian men and women, Latino American men and women, and Black men forming relationships of love and affection. This pattern has a healing effect. African American women are not participating in this phenomenon in any meaningful level because they have chosen not to participate. More's the pity for them. But at the group level Multiculturalism and Identity Politics have driven the races into separate hostile camps in a zero sum game that ensures conflict. Conflict ensures division. Division ensures American defeat by external forces and historical processes. Barack Obama has worsened race relations. Barack Obama is into social justice. Social justice requires use of the federal govt. as the vehicle for redistributive policies that benefit African Americans and Latino Americans as groups on a de facto basis. The shift of $500 Billion from Medicare to Obamacare is an example of redistribution. The Dept. of Justice is another hotbed of racial intolerance. Look at DOJ's Office of Civil Rights. It's staffed at the highest level with race baiters. America's relative share of the international economic pie is decreasing. That fact in and of itself guarantees hostility among competing groups. There is no reason for optimism in group to group relations.
then please by all means TELL ME since you know it so well, WHAT ARE these black flash mobbers angry about? Having to pay for chips and a soda? Or that someone owns a business and they don't?
it amazes me that you cats still cling to the silly notion that attending a particular college decides who is 'smart' and who isn't...if that isn't elitism, I don't know what to call it. Harvard is just a school, it isn't magic.
