No one has ever played the race card on the scale that Mr. Obama has. The country is worse off for it. He set race relations back, IMO. I'm NOT happy about that. We need race relations to continually improve or it hurts us all. It just goes to show that race issues are continually a point of national angst. It will NOT improve until Blacks stop using slavery victim-hood as an excuse to hate Whites who had nothing to do with it. Whites resent that. I sure do. But White people for the most part are afraid to say it. I'm NOT. We need to get this all "out there" so we can deal with it and finally put it to rest. THAT will help all the races in America and it's the only real chance multiculturalism has to work here. It really DOES come down to that. Choose, people. Do we want to get along with each other, or not? Hang on to the past or move forward. It's up to us all.
Trinnity, I totally agree. Playing the race card is a machination of the govt to keep the races divided for the purpose of keeping us all distracted from the shennanagins our govt is pulling on a daily basis. Political, class and racial division serves to keep the population less focused on the real issues. Meanwhile, our liberties are being steadily eroded.
Whatever "the race card" may be actually defined as, I don't believe it is 'that' which hinders the proper views of race within America... it is (primarily) our overall inability AS A NATION OF CITIZENS to have honest, open, reasonable and civil discussions on ethnicity/culture. Many times in internet fora such as this one, I have seen people ducking-out from truth (past and present). And whether (or not) one feels "guilt" or "responsibility"... it is upon them to soothe that within themselves as best they can, while accepting 'truth'. Some are sensitive to these issues and that is understandable, living in a nation where race relations carries with it dire history and subsequent legacies which affect people TODAY. Even so, 'truth' and an intentional modicum of 'civility', actively practiced... are the only real/effective antidote for the poison that is "racism". Placing BLAME alone, will never work in America.
I agree with the end of your statement. But you want everyone to move on while you're still blaming the people that have suffered the worst. If you want to get rid of racism in America, which I think is a great goal, I think the first thing you have to do is read a whole lot of history books. I highly recommend Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States. Then I think you'll see that racism is something that's been impressed upon us as a people by the upper classes, as a way of dividing and conquering the lower classes. Racism is just another method of exploitation.
Why is it ridiculous? What's NOT elitist about Harvard graduates? They're the most stuck elitist liberals in the nation, IMO.
When does Obama play the race card? Honestly, it's not that hard to make the case he chooses to stay out of political instances where race is mentioned or a factor. The thing with the Harvard professor is an outlier. It's really not in his job description to have a press conference everytime someting happens in the country that is race related.
Both sides are to blame. This feeds on itself. I'm saying that both sides have to face their part in this, and it's often portrayed as only the fault of Whites. That's political correctness at work. That's liberal tyranny in my opinion. PC keeps us from having an honest discussion and that's a big part of the problem. A good example is the second post from "Colonel K". He immediately attacked me and associated me with Stormfront. I called him on it, and he left. Coward.... That is so wrong and untrue. That sort of thing moves the discussion immediately to attack mode an derails the discussion. In fact there's been a lot of griping about people being aligned with Stormfront lately and I have to wonder if it's the latest DNC talking point that's being distributed by mass emailings...
Huh. You said pretty much the same thing I did, only you blamed the government and I blamed the wealthy. Maybe we're both right! Not like there are any poor people in government.
Get back with me, when you are ready to critically discuss "Conservative Elitists" as well. (Here is the LONG version.) Until then, you're just attacking people and name calling.
You are very correct, Trinnity! Many progressives have also come to this same conclusion. "To his credit, Obama concedes that he "may have benefited from the Law Review's affirmative action policy." This did not strike him as unusual as he "undoubtedly benefited from affirmative action programs during my academic career." Scarier than Obama's style, however, is his thinking. A neophyte race-hustler after his three years in Chicago, Obama is keen to browbeat those who would "even insinuate" that affirmative action rewards the undeserving, results in inappropriate job placements, or stigmatizes its presumed beneficiaries." In the case of Michelle Obama, affirmative action did all three. The partners at Sidley Austin learned this the hard way. In 1988, they hired her out of Harvard Law under the impression that the degree meant something. It did not. By 1991, Michelle was working in the public sector as an assistant to the mayor. By 1993, she had given up her law license. Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed. -- Mychal Massie, syndicated op-ed black columnist
No James, Trinnity nor you, are so very correct. You have a view to express, but it is not THE complete answer; not by any means.
Please be specific in terms of his policies and or his statements how President Obama has used race in a devisive way ? As to your comments about race relations in general its fair to say that modern day whites should not be blamed or viewed negatively over slavery. However it should be said alot of whites simply do not want anything to do with blacks. They will deal with them when necessary but otherwise they stay to themselves. Of course its safe to say alot of blacks are the same way. Middle class and upperclass blacks and similarly situated whites lead separate lives as do working class blacks and whites despite the fact all these groups probably have things in common that have nothing to do with race. The same thing is true about churches and religion. " Sunday Morning is the most segregated time in America " and more than forty years after leagal intergration has taken place that remains true. Both sides need to make an effort.
You are very mistaken, Daybreaker. Especially when yuo say, "Racism is just another method of exploitation." Republicans and Libertarians want to lift the human spirit. Liberals just want to give people a free government handout! This policy only keeps these people beaten down and despondent because they know they are parasites and leeches who have produced nothing and contribute nothing at all to the rest of society. If people today would stay in school, get a good education and work hard every day, they too would become very successful. But too many people today would rather take the "easy" way out, and then they "moan and groan" and complain because other people, the "wealth creators", who have worked hard all their lives, have so much more than they do! These people have no one to blame for their misfortunes but themselves. Uncle Sam's Plantation 1939-2011. We used to be a constitutional republic. Today, given the amount we spend on entitlement programs, we more or less resemble a government-owned and government-directed plantation estate! Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty​ with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.
Trinnity, here's the situation as I see it: You're going on the offensive by bringing this up and trying to deal with it in a logical, conversational way. These folks don't want you on the offense. They want you to stay where (they think) you belong - on defense: defending yourself against their charges of racism. The only conversation or debate they want is one that they control. The debate must consist only of them being victims of racism at the hands of people like you and me. And trying to force us to defend ourselves from being called racists. When someone like you tries to change their narrative, it makes them more strident and more angry. Just read the posts - their vitriol is dripping. They are so predictable. lol
I've never seen Barack Obama use the race card -- more just his supporters. I certainly do find it weak when I critique Obama's policies and the Liberals call me a racist. I agree that different races should not condemn each other for what people did generations before us.
How about the Gates/Crowley debacle? And what comes out of his admin is that the Tea Party is racist too. “Obama Says Race a Key Component in Tea Party Protests.” Oh and his DOJ ignoring the NBPP voter intimidation issue and NOT pursuing it.. Former DOJ Attorney Discusses New Black Panther Party Voter Intimidation Case I could come up with more, but that'll do for now.
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You are very correct, Mad Conservative. Especially when you say, "The only conversation or debate they want is one that they control. The debate must consist only of them being victims of racism at the hands of people like you and me. And trying to force us to defend ourselves from being called racists." Republicans and Libertarians want to lift the human spirit. Liberals just want to give people a free government handout! This policy only keeps these people beaten down and despondent because they know they are parasites and leeches who have produced nothing and contribute nothing at all to the rest of society. Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty​ with little, if any, impact on poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans. In order to break the Democrats' stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party's economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats. We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity. -- Frances Rice, distinguished black author
Look, if you think it is right to depict Liberals as being totally faulty without criticizing Conservatives (even relating to the issue of race), then you need to be CALLED on it. Please, enough of the racist-fantasies that so many have foolishly posted up here. It is just a waste.
