"Equal Rights" is a joke

This should go down as one of the stupidest quotes I've ever read.

The first people ever conceived were made by gods own hands (Adam and Eve), who were Christians. You stand corrected.

 

but not across the board to all married couples, which is why it's irrelevant. it's not even a marriage law, it's a paternity law.

 

I think that you repeat the above, because your argument has failed... and now, you are just seeking to indoctrinate or confuse those who cannot 'reason' pass your misleading rhetoric.

 

Only in the 6 states that allow same sex marriage, does it not apply to those same sex marriages.

 

Actually my argument has been quite successful in courts all across the country.

 

Surely you are joking. No one is that ignorant.

He said: "Marriage has existed before Christianity ... " and he is 100% correct.

Christianity started about 2000 years ago.
Marriage goes back about 4,350 years.

What part of that confuses you?

 

you will need to prove the existence of a god, before you can claim it conceived the first two people on earth.

and yes, marriage existed long before christianity.

 

nope, in all 50 states it doesn't apply to all married couples. which is why it's not a marriage law, but a paternity law.



I do love it though that you continue to use these irrelevant, and previously refuted arguments.

 

actually, your arguments are failing in FEDERAL court. which is why prop 8 was struck down, and why DOMA was declared unconstitutional.

 

Nope, it applies to all marriages between a man and a woman. And since it was a part of the uniform MARRIAGE act adopted by most states, it is clearly a marrige law. Your silly, baseles proclamations have no credibility. You dont have a clue.

 

Its been quite successful in both state and federal courts. And DOMA is right where it has always been as a federal law.

 

nope, your arguments have been failing on both the state, and FEDERAL levels. which is why DOMA was declared unconstitutional, and why the executive branch will no longer defend it in court.

 

LOLOLOLOL! Thats like saying laws against murder dont apply to everybody, just the people who commit murder.

 

No my argument still succeed. Winning 44 to 6.

 

Why are you celebrating an ultimately hollow victory? Do you realize you've won nothing of actual value overall?

 

which is a true statement.

 

nope, which is why DOMA was declared unconstitutional in FEDERAL court, and why the executive branch will no longer defend it.

 

No, California is one of those 46 where marriage is limited to heterosexual couples because of their unique potential of procreation. DOMA is still the law of the land.

 

It's clear that your view doesn't keep pace with reality.

Yet, the U.S. Constitution (and any subsequent and valid interpretations of that document), inform the efficacy of laws presently existing and being enforced. That is, the people's proper sense of social consciousness and overall justice isn't eliminated, due to the passing of a given 'law'. In America, no law is so written in stone that it cannot be reviewed, improved or even repealed.

DOMA isn't being 'enforced' by the government today; and that ought to tell you something that is quite significant.

 

Actually, it is still enforced. Some kind of delusion on your part. You seem to be able to fabricate within your own mind, a world you have imagined, that has replaced the real world around you.

 

You are correct.

No, not all of that. But I should have differentiated between DOMA not being defended in court, and not being enforced. As of now, DOMA is not being defended in Federal Court.

 

Your arguments weren't behind the passing of voter initiatives adding bars to state constitutions. Many of those bars were motivated by animus and hatred toward a particular class of persons not by arguments that were "quite successful in courts".

There have not been that many fully witnessed cases challenging these amendments, the one noticeable exception being Prop 8 in California which was an absolute slam dunk for the plaintiffs.

Most of these amendments have been passed by relying on lies, mischaracterizations and previously held biases.

The same is carrying on right now in NC which, in all likelyhood will probably pass its own amendment very soon but watch the video on this page to see what happens when a bigoted politician's views actually come under question:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vIqYJcLC4I&feature=player_embedded"]Sirius XM: NC State Sen. James Forrester Can't Answer Basic Questions - YouTube[/ame]

If you count lies as "successful arguments" then you may as well enjoy your "victories" for the short time they're destined to last.

 

No California is one of the 46 States where marriage is limited to heterosexual couples because of an up-or-down voter initiative called Prop 8 which has been found unconstitutional in a FEDERAL court.

Prior to this same-sex-marriage was found to be legal under the California State constitution. Same sex couples who married during this time are still married in California which makes nonsense of your declaration. Do they have a unique ability to procreate which other same sex couples don't?

I don't see why you see the need to lie about it?