The War In Iraq Is Over!

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  1. EvilAztec

    EvilAztec Banned

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    "However, Putin said there was no evidence that Saddam's regime was involved in any terrorist attacks." http://articles.cnn.com/2004-06-18/...adimir-putin-russian-intelligence?_s=PM:WORLD
    You read the entire article, before references
     
  2. dixon76710

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    Sorry, the pidgin english makes no sense to me.
     
  3. zulu1

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    It's spelt pigeon.
     
  4. dixon76710

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    Not to be confused with Pigeon.
    A pidgin ( /ˈpɪdʒɪn/), or pidgin language, is a simplified language that develops as a means of communication between two or more groups that do not have a language in common.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin
     
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  5. Serfin' USA

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    Alright dixon, I'll play your little game, but you're not going to like it.

    Prove to me that the Tea Party isn't a bunch of redneck morons.
     
  6. Serfin' USA

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    The only thing revealing is that you apparently don't understand the principle of innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    You know, honestly, the way you're presenting this, I can see where the "inside job" theory comes from.

    It was awfully convenient that 9/11 changed the overall political atmosphere of the world to the point that we could still get a lot of our allies to aid in the invasion of Iraq.
     
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    ???? No, I think it is YOU that doesnt understand the principle of innocent until proven guilty. Presumptions are not statements of fact.
     
  9. Serfin' USA

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    Yes, but a negative assumption is the default position until enough contradicting evidence is presented.

    Occam's Razor should be adhered to with respect to foreign policy just as much with everything else.

    You can prove that Saddam had ties to terror, but so far, you haven't proven his involvement in 9/11.

    By default, I can only assume that he wasn't involved. Our government also made that assumption.
     
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    No, its a presumption that the criminal justice system that prosecutes criminals for crimes must assume IN THEIR criminal prosecution. Has nothing whatsoever to do with our discussion of history.
     
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    If you are referring to the other posters offer of proof of your assertion,

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/sep/12/september11.usa2

    What BS. Bush said-

    And Evil runs with it and proclaims saddam has "no connection to terrorism". You people believe what you REEEAAAALLY want to believe. 9/11 was an inside job but Saddam shall remain pure as the driven snow on all matters other than those he has been convicted of in a court of law.
     
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    Control of sources of oil globally is US primary interest and will be for centuries.

    we as paid soldiers are used for oil and fed control interests in iraq and afganistan.

    It should be illegal for the US to allow mercenaries - paid military to agress against foreign countries when US soil is not being attacked.

    Bush really didn't care if anyone agreed, but others felt fear would help prevent riots.

    Americans should unplug from the economic system and no one should sign a UCMJ military Contract. It should be illegal to lure our kids with money and adventure when they are actually being forced to be mercinaries.

    We the people are the US military, and we will oppose the Fed if the Fed opposes US Citizens. The public may begin arming and fighting back if it continues.

    Law enforcement is breaking laws without supervision and may incite a civil war in the US.
     
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    Yes!! We finally left!! We basically weren't given any other option, but hooray anyways!! :winner: Now if we could only ever get a politician with the courage and moral fortitude to end wars before there is no other option, that would be a huge step forward.
     
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    Okay, read this over to yourself a few times, see if it starts to sound at all odd.

    Bin Laden is ACCUSED of being involved in 911. It can only ever be that, since proof and evidence have never been provided that is sound, and beyond question. Anyway, let's say this is what you believed, that Bin Laden had masterminded the take down of the Twin Towers, in the USA, the nation with the World's best defences. From a cave.

    Now, you have the act, and you have the suspect in your sights.

    And in 2011, the Taliban have him to hand over, to answer to these allegations. Yet, the US would sooner he was left at large, for ANOTHER TEN YEARS!

    Surely if he were that dangerous, that connected, and that able, they could not surely risk another decade of him being at large?

    And yet they did.

    Doesn't anything about that strike you as odd?
     
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    Never mind Serfin then.

    Be clear.

    To what extent, if at all, do you think Saddam Hussein was involved in 911?
     
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    I don't believe 9/11 was an inside job. There's no proof of that either.

    I honestly don't understand what you're arguing about now.
     
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    Oh,dear the War in Iraq is over ,well lets just wait on that !

    I would say the war is not over and the Revolution [class war or civilwar]is about to begin see history does not refer to a US Government road map inorder to operate!

    You ain't seen nothing yet !

    The War is not over its just that the FGNE or as it used to be known the USA ,is bankrupt Politically and Economically!

    No the War isn't over it has reached a new even more dangerous stage!
     
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    I asked what the Australian soldiers are doing now that the "Iraq war"was "over"the reply from a returned infantry man was .

    Many who are about to leave the army are returning to be employed by private security firms !

    big bucks if you have the skill set!
     
  19. KingRichard

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    I have shown you the proof that 9-11 was an inside job.
    2 multi trillion dollar wars in vital geopolitical regions.
    NO DEFENCE of the most secure building on the planet.. with just the "accounting" department hit. Why did Russia bother with the arms race? All they needed was to fly a plane into the Pentagon.
    NORAD stand down.
    Controlled demolition of 3 steel skyscrapers.
    Constant control of the American people with propaganda and lies about TERRORIST threats.
    Just coincidence ..first year of the NEOCON reign?
    Commission cover up... even the commissioners complained.
    No public investigation into 9-11.


    vs

    It was muslims... no evidence..but it was muslims. HA HA HA


    OBL died in 2001. Prove to me that he did not.
     
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    Why do we announce that we are leaving? That is the dumbest thing we could possibly do.
     
  21. KingRichard

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    ok then honey. Show me evidence that it was the imaginary terrorist group..AL QAEDA.

    10 years and waiting. Still not a shred of evidence... but your media tell you that it was definitely them.

    You sir are controlled.
     
  22. Serfin' USA

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    Not really. And it's not like this is the sort of thing that can be kept secret.

    When people made a similar argument against Bush making a "timetable" for withdrawal, it could at least be defended with the excuse that the government wasn't stable yet.

    Now, the government is stable, and the insurgency is pretty weak.

    In short, it's time to leave.
     
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    I know it is time to leave... but I think it is dumb to tell the enemy you are leaving.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

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    You're demanding proof of a negative. That's not a valid argument.
     
  25. KingRichard

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    So funny watching this argument.

    Obama and Bush are puppets. They are on the same side.

    Wake up America.
     
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