Israel; Iran has no bomb program.

Al Quada used this logic to fly planes into the twin towers. According to such logic, Al Quada's actions were valid and justififed. That kind of defeats the concept of "war against terror".

 

Speaking of retarded, the CIA and US congress argued in 1991 that Iran could build nuclear weapons if it wanted to:

By late 1991, Congressional reports and CIA assessments maintained a "high degree of certainty that the government of Iran has acquired all, or virtually all, of the components required for the construction of two to three nuclear weapons."
http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=629443


21 years later, the US congress is fussing like a retarded maniac that Iran never built any nuclear bombs for the last 21 years that it has had the ability to do so, for 21 years! Under such circumstances, if the US regime is not retarded, then it is heavily retarded. American foreign policy has gone mad! America's government has become a luney tuney on stereoids, as far as its middle eastern policies are concerned.

I'm thus in full agreement with you that the US congress is heavily retarded on the issue. It is amazing how heavily retarded the US of AIPAC has become! Normally, the retardness of the US regime would not be an issue if we didn't have to pay for such stupidity at the pump. The US government has failed the taxpayer again.


Of course, your republican response to the retardedness of the US foreign politics, will be to argue that one needs to wrongly murder innocent Iranians since Iran hasn't built any nukes during the last 21 years that it has had the ability to do so. Whenever retardedness rules a regime, one seeks to justify the murder of the innocent, hoping that murder will excuse one's retarded foreign policies.

 

While the US of AIPAC continues to huff and puff like a complete retarded moron about the fact that Iran hasn't built any nuclear weapons in the last 21 years that it has had the ability to do so (according to US "intelligence"), the Institute for Science and International Security just released a report stating that Iran still hasn't made any efforts to construct any nukes:

Iran won’t get nuclear weapon … this year: ISIS report
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/26/iran-wont-get-nuclear-weapon-this-year-isis-report/

 

Everybody is so verbose here..... sad really....

We will see in 6 months if the Iranian Regime has bombs or not.


So much blah blah blah and nobody listens .... ego rules !


C'est la vie.

 

If Iran wanted to have any nuclear bombs, then it would have built them in 1991 when the US government first chose to argue that it had the ability to do so. According to Israel, Iran hasn't used its nuclear weapons since it got them before 1998:

Iran received several nuclear warheads from a former Soviet republic during the early 1990s, THE JERUSALEM POST reported.
http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1998/980409-iran2.htm


So, one must ask, why are America and Israel so very eager to distract gullible Guilt Complex Americans from Israel's illegal settlement expansions?

 

Yes. Iran is a little angel? hahahahaaa yeah right!

 

That's what i mean .... like i said before ....now what has that to do with Iran making the atomic bomb against all international laws?


If we only could stay on topic... but no.... Ego rules we like the sound of our own voices...... it seems

 

Israel only agreed to let a Palestinian authority have control over the West Bank and Gaza if they managed the security situation. They failed at this, and continue to fail. This leaves Israel no choice but to ensure Israeli security for themselves.

Its not a plot that Iran can serve as a distraction for, as Iran freely admits to a complex nuclear energy program but still is hiding it for some reason which from a security perspective must be assumed to be a worse case scenario that they are developing nuclear weapons. Its irrelevant if they had them in 1991 because the world was very different in 1991.

 

what laws?


Its not illegal you know.

 

Mr R, I showed you that in 2003/2004 Iran offered a most extraordinary course, both to comply with the Additional protocol, even though it had not even been ratified yet, but also to go way beyond those stipulations. I am not even sure if 'extraordinary' is perhaps a bit light as an adjective to describe these Iranian offers. And I showed how Iran was then rewarded by a most extraordinary slap in the face by the UN with accusations of non-compliance with the NPT. Iran's subsequent decision not to ratify the Additional protocol was utterly predictable and understandable, in total contrast to your previous claim.

But, instead of either conceding the point or refuting my account of documented history at the time, you totally ignore your original rebuttal regarding the reason for Iran's non-ratification, and roll in the accusations of UN sanctions. That is called a strawman, MrR.

You were shown that Iran's non-ratification of the Additional protocol was absolutely justified, in fact, most observers were expecting her to withdraw from the NPT altogether, and not, as you claimed, because she had something to hide. It is utterly plain to see and fully supported by verifiable documentation and references.

By having to resort to a strawman, you have been found to be out of ammunition regarding the suspiciousness of Iran's non-ratification of the Additional protocol.

I am still waiting for you to strip out the "laptop of death", the "Additional protocol non-compliance, and the "Technical studies" from the Nov 2011 IAEA report and tell me what is left. Oh wait, I seem to remember reading somewhere something about "three technical studies" that could not possibly have any application outside that of nuclear weapons development? Were these 3 studies your last remaining justification for attacking Iran?

 

Nobody said that Iran is an angel, and Iran hasn't used the nuclear weapons that Israel argues it has had for the past 14 years, nor has Iran built the nuclear weapons the US government claims it has been capable of building for the last 21 years.

As such, why do gullible American Guilt Complex members care anything about Iran at all while Israel is constructing nuclear weapons and expanding illegal settlements? Iran is neither constructing nuclear weapons, according to available evidence, nor is it expanding illegal settlements and it is certainly not destroying the nation of Palestine. Does the US of AIPAC really know what it is doing?

 

Then, Israel has two choices: to attack Iran in defense of Israeli apartheid, or to abolish apartheid instead harming innocent civilians.

Iran is likely only "hiding" because the US and Israel have a reputation for murdering scientists and making an unnecessary fuss about legal matters. Even if Iran had used its ability to build nukes for the past 21 to build nukes, then it would have simply added more nukes the the nukes that Israel argues it has had for the past 10 years. The US and Israel are basically fussing that they can't prove that Iran built the nukes that Israel needs to argue that it built for Holocaust Guilt Complex purposes required for illegal settlement expansion activities due to American gullibility..

 

For over 17yrs now we have been told by these BloodyMinded Psychopaths
that an Iranian Nuclear Bomb capability & therefore immediate Attack is but months away.


They have continually whipped up a frenzy of Hate & Fear in order to achieve the instigation
of a so called preemtive MiddleEast conflagration that would Murder untold numbers Innocents


Yet we have been told by IAEA, US Secretary of Defense & the Israeli Defense Minister
..................................................... that Iran does NOT have a Nuclear Bomb Program


In light of this clear Fact, Mr Relevant & the International War Mongering Machine continues
to Irrationally insist that Iran has but to assemble a Bomb and place it on top of a missile


Failing do note - that in order to have the fissile material and components necessary to construct
such a Nuclear Device, they would of necessity, have to have in place “A Bomb Making Program”
& such a program has now been clearly denied by the mainstays of their own Authorities

Now in the face of such Irrational contortions he wants us to believe him to be an honest broker
.......................................................................................... of the truth in these matters



Realizing that Aggressive War is the Ultimate Evil, and after closely following the Lies & Machinations
that continue to appear in the American Media we must conclude that these people are ready to indulge
in such Evil in order to achieve their own insanely evil, power hungry, strategic goals.


You can Bet your Ass, and ALL meaningful human civilization, on whether or not, Russia & China
will not stand by & allow the destruction of Iran knowing that they stand next in line by these miscreants


Heads you lose - Tails you lose


The Eurasian Triple Entente: Touch Iran in a War,
.......................... You Will Hear Russia and China
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30337.htm
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US/Israel: Iran NOT Building Nukes
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30358.htm






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This sounds like it will come as a shock to you, Judge, but anyone who engages in violence or acts of War uses that logic.

As I said.

The logic is them fighting for what they believe in, and against those with whom they disagree.

So it doesn't defeat the concept of "war on terror" whatsoever - as the exact same logic is also used to wage it.

What matters, therefore, is picking a side.

As. I. Said.

 

I would think that what matters is one's will and ability to comply with the law. Those who violate the law may experience a short victory, but it is unlikely for such a short victory to last long. For a long victory, one must win the hearts of the people by treating them justly and fairly.

 

America and Americans should be the absolute last people on the face of this Earth to condemn another for oppression or to label another as an oppressor. You may want to look at your own history, both past and present.

 

"The Judge", I guess that you need to eliminate or disqualify The United States being that this nation never treats the peoples of other nations fairly nor justly. As I stated earlier, the history of this country is abyssmal when it comes to practing true freedom, justice, equality and "fairness" around the planet and within its borders on a consistant basis.

 

I like this: "International War Mongering Machine"

Back to the topic at hand.
The reason that The United States and certain European powers want war with Iran is for strategic purposes, as you have stated and to get their hands on Iran, period. What we are witnessing are the final days or years of a maniacal malevolent entity that is Hell-bent on destroying as many as they can before the end of their days. Trust me, these murderers know that their days are number and the clock is quickly winding down.

 

It is hoped that even some of the members of "The War Mongering Machine"
............................................................ are beginning to realize this

Iran - What the Experts are Saying

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I'm utterly baffled how this is supposed to be some sort of cogent response to what I wrote.

 

You wrote that you felt that the practice of terrorism was a natural and normal means of getting what one wants. I responded with the fact that such does not win the support of the people and is thus unlikely to experience success for long.

 

There is some truth to this, but all of it isn't completely true. The US has harmed and helped many people and it isn't the only nation which has done things wrong. Overall, America's reputation has declined over the years and it needs to adopt a more neutral position which focuses on repaying its debts.

 

The truth is not that Iran has decided not to make a bomb but that they have stopped just short of assembling a bomb. They have already applied the funds for the most expensive and difficult part of making a bomb and have the capability and foundation for creating nuclear device in short order fashion. I am constantly amazed at the terminal naivety and the extent of the rationalizing the usual suspects will use in an malicious attempt to support their absurd agenda to promote a vision of a world friendly Iran. Lastly if I were the kook (Iran's President) I would have already bought several nukes from the failed USSR or terror network.

Rev A~

 

No terrorism is an unnatural perverse repugnant and cowardly way of obtaining what they can not get legally. Its morally and legally wrong on almost any standard one wants to mention. When a group of goons intentionally target civilians, which include women and children the wrath of the world should fall upon them. Luckily Al Stupida' the leaders on down, learned that that the wrath, that karma of what goes around comes around and it picks up speed, will reach out and touch them no matter where they hide.

Rev A

 

Bollox. To produce the components for nuclear weapons one must have a production program. Iran clearly doesn't and is open to IAEA inspectors who monitor Iran's civil program. Certainly, there are processes in civil nuclear engineering which mirror processes in military applications - every country with a home-grown civil program has those- but the IAEA have found NOTHING which indicates weaponization, otherwise they would be screaming it out. They are not. Their concerns about weaponization come from spurious third party sources which want to see Iran attacked.
Iran, however, is entitled under the terms of the NNPT to maintain its nuclear program at full efficiency. If that means that Iran has , or will have, the so-called Japan Option- the ability to produce weapons at relatively short notice if attacked- then good luck to Iran because the level of threat from the Zionists is dangerous and illegal. However, Iran has NOT decided to build a bomb. MOSSAD states that, as does ISIS. Indeed so does Iran and so does the IAEA. Should the Zionists continue to threaten- or actually attack- Iran then Iran will withdraw from its NNPT agreements. THAT'S WHEN you'll know that Iran has a bomb program- and every dumb schmuck will then know why.
Dump Zionism if you want peace.