Study: Marijuana Doubles the Risk of Vehicle Collisions

At what intoxication level should it be a punishable offence. And how exactly does an officer test title that intoxication level on the side of the road?

 

You can charge someone with a DUI if they have taken marijuana. What is with all these amateur lawyers rewriting the laws of this country? This is common knowledge. Everyone knows this.

 

They can give you the standard DUI tests if they have probable cause.

 

Absurd.

If the driver exhibits inebriated or intoxicated behavior of ANY kind, the police can take them to the police station or hospital ER and get a blood test.

If you refuse, you lose your license and go to jail anyway.

No drugs need to be found in the car. Ridiculous.

I see it all the time when working at the ERs I service..

 

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More negatives come from the black market than come from Marijuana, just like alcohol. Yup, it will mess some people up, but that isn't justification enough for prohibition.

 

That must be a state law where you live, because where I live a police officer cannot give a drug test if no drugs are found in the car.

What do you mean by the ERs you service?

 

How is it determined when the weed was smoked?

Are you telling me that a person could smoke weed one day, get pulled over 3 or 4 days later, the officer thinks he looks stoned, tells him he has to take a drug test, and if it comes back positive he loses his license? Even if he hadn't smoked that day, the test would come back positive, because it stays in your system longer than that.

I don't think you really know what you're talking about. Either that, or you have some crazy Orwellian laws where you live.

 

What state do you live in might I ask? Because in many states, by signing your drivers licence you are giving "implied consent" to be tested for drugs if you are suspected of driving under the influence and are subject to testing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunk_driving_in_the_United_States#Typical_DUI_investigation_and_arrest

 

I've been saying for years that the auto industry is behind the legalize pot movement. Car crashes mean car sales and the war on DUI has cost them business. GM would love to see stoned drivers crashing into each other on the highways.

 

Your link deals with drunk driving. A breathalyzer can be given if an officer suspects that you are drunk. Refusal will result in being charged.

There is no breathalyzer for drug use. If no drugs are found in your car, an officer can't make you take a drug test. A police officer cannot take you to the station and make you take a drug test because he thinks you may be stoned. A urine test for marijuana does not show when it was smoked, only whether or not it's in your system, and it can stay in your system for weeks, so the test wouldn't be accurate to prove driving under the influence.

From your link:

 

I agree the biggest pragmatic roadblock to legalization of any drugs for recreational use is the roadside test... invent a pot breathalizer and tomorrow you will be wealthy and phillip morris (or whatever they call themselves) even wealthier.

Curious to know if blood test results can suggest intoxication level at the time the test is taken?

 

It's not a matter of me thinking you don't know what you are talking about. I know you don't know what you are talking about. If someone does not evidence any behavior of driving impaired it is immaterial what their blood alcohol level or THC level is. You need to READ the Constitution, Mr Conservative, and quit making up laws in your head. There is a little thing we call probable cause here in America. If you don't have it you can't start asking for tests. And if someone is dumb enough to submit to an illegal test they can still get a good lawyer and get off. How do you not know this?!

FOURTH AMENDMENT look into it. What do they teach the Republican children in school these days?

Bottom line if you exhibit behavior consistent with chemical impairment you can be charged with a DUI. If you are not exhibiting any behavior consistent with impairment then the police do not have probable cause to ask for any further testing. They can arrest you and yell at you but that case gets tossed in court.

 

Constitution pssst please... a cop can administer a breathalizer your signature on your license allows your rights to be waved in this regard. You don't like it and want to bleep at the cop about your rights, you have the "right" to no longer drive, because driving is a privilege not a right. Do cops abuse that authority, sure they're cops, but good luck proving that in court.

 

You can refuse a breathalyzer. What are they going to do? Put you in a headlock and force you to exhale through your mouth?

You just say no thank you. That's it and take a ride downtown. Let your lawyer sort it out in the morning. Any good defense lawyer will tell you not to blow. Those things are inaccurate. With no breathalyzer a defense lawyers job is 1000% easier. Then the cop has to tell some really convincing story about how you were slurring your speech and driving all over the road. Of course you will parade all your friends through the court room who will testify how you had half a beer three hours earlier. Trust me. Because of Rick Perry's stupidity in increasing the DUI fines by thousands tons of cases are now being contested and they aren't even going to court. They are plea bargaining to misdemeanor reckless driving... a freaking traffic ticket. But if you blow and the machine reads .08+ your (*)(*)(*)(*)ed. I'm being serious. Since they increased the fine the number of convictions have dropped. People don't know you can fight these things.

 

Yes and you lose your license... you showed them.

EDIT: If you refuse blood test too.

 

Probable cause for a drug test for someone who is driving is not whether or not they look stoned. The only way you're going to get drug tested is if you are found with drugs on you while driving. If you think that prosecutors get drug DUI convictions for people that weren't found to have drugs on them, you're out of your mind. I can just hear the prosecutor now: "He looked stoned, your honor." LMAO

 

You can be convicted of DUI even if you are not in possession of drugs. They have dash cams and they have cameras downtown. If you exhibit behavior consistent with being impaired you can be convicted even in the absence of a joint or beer bottle. Don't believe me? Try it.

 

LMAO

Flag is that you?

 

So... whats your point? Nobody said we should legalize drugs and let people drive around while on them. Why can't drugs be regulated just like alcohol? It would work far better than our attempts to snuff it out of existence... which by the way will never happen.

 

This place is too funny. You've got Jebediah with his "they have cameras downtown", "don't believe me? try it" crap, and Fiddlerdave with his tales from the ER in which he supposedly always sees people lined up at emergency rooms waiting to take urine tests, all while he's "servicing" the said ERs. Ah, the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is getting deep here.

 

Yes that is usually automatic with a refusal. But it is a temporary loss for like a year. And you can petition to get a part time license to go to work or school. Far better and cheaper than a DUI conviction.

 

Whether you choose to believe it is up to you. That does not change reality.

Hjalmar Thorsson, your ravings are easily debunked.

 

hmm touche.

 

I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what your link said and I'm not even disputing it. That's not what's funny. What's funny is the childish way people talk on this forum and still believe they're being taken seriously. "they have cameras downtown". Is that downtown anywhere, USA? "don't believe me? try it". LMAO