High Income is Love - Not Greed

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  1. Silence_Dogood

    Silence_Dogood New Member

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    Those who earn high income seem to be labeled as greedy or evil by society.

    I was born into a middle class family, and am working as hard as I can to rise to the heights of wealth and luxury.

    But what is misunderstood by most is that the motivation is not for myself. I am completely motivated by making the most positive change for my family, my business and my community.

    I desire a great income so that I can provide for a family and children some day. All of my hard work is for the family I have not yet created. I want them to have the best. I want them to be safe and secure. I would be happy to live in a log cabin as a hermit. But the knowledge that I can create happiness and security for others drives me to be at MY BEST. It drives me to earn the most that I can. FOR THEM. I have talents and gifts that I am incredibly thankful for, and I have a moral responsibility to myself and to my family to maximize my potential so that I can share love and happiness with them.

    High income is required for me to share my talents and love with my family and the children I someday wish to have.

    Sure, there are some who are just greedy. I would wager that 95% of those in the upper-income brackets are motivated to maximize their talents because they have people counting on them.

    The desire to be my best is motivated by love, not greed.
     
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    Greed can extend to others. This is where your logic fails.

    You can have a whole family of greedy people trying to help each other out of love while greedily ignoring other people and watching them die in gutters.

    :)


    Not saying all wealthy people are like that but I'm just seeing lots of holes in your logic.
     
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    Ah...the old "spread the wealth" again. Spread your own wealth. Leave the rest of us alone to do as we see fit with "our" money.
     
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    I never said anywhere to spread the wealth. Thank you for assuming like an idiot. I just pointed out that you can have a loving family motivated to wealth by love that can STILL be greedy. This has nothing to do with spreading the wealth.
     
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    Nice post Silence - or should I call you Ben? There is absolutely nothing wrong with your motivation or logic. Keep your sights high, your voice low and your goals written.

    Cheers, FS
     
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    Read what you wrote: "while greedily ignoring other people and watching them die in gutters"

    ...sounds like you're saying spread the wealth you greedy bast--d...awfully arrogant, like any Obamaite.
     
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    It is the most absurd affirmation that I 've ver read.

    Tell me from where come high incomes. Oh (*)(*)(*)(*), come from te work of other workers. Crap.
     
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    You can take what you want from it. You could say I endorsed the killing of millions of puppies. You'll still be wrong.
     
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    Awesome points!!!
     
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    Wow, what a negative and ignorant mentality. If you become a doctor, did "the workers" get the grades, do the work, take out the loans and go to school for you? No?
    A lawyer?
    An Accountant?
    If you take a huge risk and gamble your own money to start a business, did the workers do that for you? Work the 16+ hour days until it got off the ground? Rent the office, buy the equipment, get the clients etc... to get it far enough off the ground so that you could give those workers a job? No?
    Yeah. No (*)(*)(*)(*).

    I truly appreciate my employees. I'm taking everyone and their spouses to Maui this Summer to celebrate the best year we've had since 2007. But guess what? They really appreciate me too.

    A quality you obviously don't have because you're so busy blaming others.

    Im not saying there aren't horrible, greedy execs out there. There are also horrible, greedy workers out there! There is good and bad in any group. But to villify the OP because he wants a good life for himself and his family? That used to be the American Dream. It became a crime when?
    OMG I want to send my daughter to a great college! I'm horrible! I want to live on more than SSI when I retire! Heinous!
    Yeah right. Sell the victim mentality down the street, we're not buying here.
     
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    I'm guessing all of the greatest works of history that men and women achieved really belong to the guy scrubbing the floor they walked on it at some point. Because it's only fair... :roll:
     
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    I think that's a beautiful thought, man.

    But I think people often take making money more seriously than taking care of their family. Nobody needs a billion dollars to love their family with. It's true that people work and sacrifice to take care of the people they love, but too often all that work just takes them away from the people that need them the most.
     
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    Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    except for those motivated by "love"? :)
     
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    Nice! I think Jesus said that...didn't he?
     
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    There is no explanation but greed for the vast majority of negative economy-based happenings taking place these days. The percentages are hard to say.

    Incidentally, by high income, I'm talking over a million a year, on the whole.

    Not many people look at today's situation and see a rich minority paying marketers to "persuade/hypnotize" folks into buying more than they need, even more than they actually want.

    If people refused to buy more than they need, the ultra rich would be FAR less rich. Today's marketing is indeed a good persuader.
     
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    That's all well and good if you can do that without the exploitation of others, to the point that others are being harmed by your actions. Cutting somebody else's throat to insure your own success (EG...Mitt Romney) is indecent, inhumane, and immoral. That's how many of the new breed of wealthy greedsters get even wealthier. It's "en vogue" today.
    Take what you need...just don't take too much. That's a lost concept and the cause of our impending collapse as a society.
     
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    Your sentiments are lost on our liberal friends because most of them have no idea what it means to have people depend on you.

    I have a wife and three children and I worked hard so that I could get an income sufficient to make them comfortable.

    I resent that I have to pay money to the government which is then distributed to people who refuse to work or go to school or gain skills.

    I also resent that my money is doled out to friends of Obama to prop up their failing businesses, i.e. GM, Chrysler, and Solyndra.
     
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    Does that entitle doctors to hire huge lobbies and buy congressmen so that they can 'legally' pick your pockets?
     
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    Are you as resentful about the subsidies, tax breaks etc... given to Big Oil and most of the Fortune 500? Or only those companies that you deem LibDem? Just curious.
     
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    That is actually a good post,
     
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    You resent paying taxes? Awwwwww..well, don't use any public facilities then. Stay off the roads, and pee at home only. Stay off of public beaches, stay out of public parks, and don't whine to public police when you get robbed, and don't call the public firehouse when your house burns down.

    Guess what Buddy? The SYSTEM IS BROKEN, and people like you have helped make it that way! Now everybody is the lazy slob, commie pinko you would like to think that they are. I know that's a shock to bubble land dwellers, but it's a fact nonetheless.
     
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    its cool up to a point but eventually it gets ridiculous. Some people make more than 100k a day... Do you honestly need that much money? most people dont even make 50k a year.. Eventually it becomes unreasonable.
     
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    Concern should be not how much more then us is someone making, but HOW are they making it. and I can break it down as an example:
    1. Special interests control the government because people can not unite with pvsi.net and are glued to television for cues on who to elect
    2. Special interest puppets (who all talk about how they are outside of establishment but in fact are pre approved by the establishment) continnue passing laws that benefit special interests as opposed to society (all well described in my speech, link below in my sig)
    3. And so, as a just one example you have all these millionaires in pharmaceutical industry, who profit from old inventions - while you and me as a working class, when my father just needed eye drops for his red eye, (which would not have cost him more then 50 cents back in his old country, the bad bad soviet union he was so against) in this special interest run America when he went to the pharmacy to buy these eye drops, he was told to go to the hospital and get a prescription first. he waited half a day there, then he got $1,200 hospital bill and and paid I think $97 for a small bottle of eye drops, that should not have cost more then a quarter. but you the people want to continnue ignoring pvsi.net and keep moaning, so good luck with your limitted vision and your popularity circus on television, because you are unable to use your brain and unite behind a real leader. which is me. in the mean time I will keep trying to get thru to you.
     
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    Roads, parks and beaches could be privatized. There is no need for the government to provide these services.

    Private security could take over for the police and be more effective.

    Towns used to have volunteer fire departments, so we could go back to that.

    The government is not as necessary as you think, and I certainly don't owe it anything.
     
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    You want me to eagerly pay my taxes? Awwwwww..well, don't elect nitwits who send us to war, bail out banks and other giants then. don't ignore pvsi.net I am a VERY giving person, god knows this, but this government is criminal - it's like giving to a baby through a dog
     

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