Palestinian Statehood ( Part 3 )

the switchboard operator at the King James Hotel is who owes apologies... not me.

 

This means that you always insult and condemn the murdered for being murdered, even when they got murdered in concentration camps. Your argument causes Holocaust survivors to puke with endless disgust and shame, since you blame the victims for being murdered through terrorism.

 

funny. I rented a home in Israel from a holocaust survivor. She completely shared my views on the subject...

have you ever been there? have you ever broken bread with a holocaust survivor or a veteran of Israel's war for independence?

 

Can you prove that some Holocaust survivors blame and condemn the victims for being murdered? I have never met a Holocaust survivor who argued that Jews were responsible for Nazi crimes.

 

We can read the thoughts of the Chairman of Israel's Central Holocaust Memorial ;

 

Yosef Lapid said: "It is inconceivable for the memory of Auschwitz to warrant ignoring the fact that there are Jews among us who behave today towards Palestinians just like German, Hungarian, Polish and other anti-Semites behaved towards Jews".

Yosef Lapid is right. But he does not attach inconceivable behavior to all Jews. Many Israelis who do not subscribe to abuse of power know that "self-defense" works far too well as an easy-to-sell pretext for unannounced but carefully calculated political objectives. Beyond the wisdom of Yosef Lapid, all Israelis, hawks and doves alike, would do well to consider the wisdom of Pogo: "We have met the enemy and he is us".

 

I have never met one either. I have met SEVERAL Holocaust survivors, my ex-landlord being only one, who fully supported Irgun's methods to oust the British from Palestine in general, and who fully supported Irgun's attack on the King David Hotel, especially since the hotel was warned in advance to evacuate the building.

 

I doubt you've ever met a Holocaust survivor in the first place. Lest we forget that your Swiss ancestors made sure that the number of survivors is as small as possible and that the victims' wealth end up in underground vaults of Swiss banks.

 

Lady, since the British Military headquarters were in the King David Hotel, that made it a legitimate Military target.

It's when you sit back and fire shells and missiles in a civilian area, knowing the other side is going to triangulate where the missile or shells came from and when they return fire you know that a lot of civilians will be killed, you know, they way your loving Arab terrorist do things.

 

Lady, if you would bother to look there are thousands of Muslim terrorist attacks list. Not "two things". Like I said, you hit me, I'll hit you back only harder with over whelming force and prejudice.

 

Funny, since it has been the Arabs killing Jews from the begaining, I don't harldy see how your reply correlates.

 

Hey, moony, please show us the Arab Auschwitz

 

You will get used to his trolling soon enough. He has the same reply to any post regardless of the topic and/or your argument. Nothing unusual though, just another face of the Israel-hating mob - 'trolls for Palestine'.
The good thing is you don't need to refute his points cause he is not making any. Just a friendly warning

 

Actually, it is incorrect to claim "Arabs killing Jews", since most Arabs don't kill anyone, I don't hate Israel or Palestine, defending Palestine is not "trolling", and it makes sense to refute an argument with facts if one has any.

 

What inspired this stupid request ? This ? ;

 

Ask a Zionist why he believes in Eretz Israel and he'll say 'God says it's all ours'. Who sounds more ridiculous?

 

Probably the belief that certain Israeli faults can only be defended with Holocaust abuse.

 

The Judge said: I have never met a Holocaust survivor who argued that Jews were responsible for Nazi crimes.

Likewise, no one has ever heard a Holocaust survivor say Palestinians were responsible for Nazi crimes. Nevertheless, the ongoing discussion is consistently framed in terms of Israel vis-a-vis Palestine with frequent reference to the Holocaust.

The principal players are dedicated to total victory of one over the other at all costs! A settlement is nowhere in sight; and invocation of the Holocaust contributes nothing to present-day prospects for a settlement. Absent a negotiated settlement, one will kill the other or they will both kill us all.

There is a third party to this interminable conflict: The rest of the World. Does anyone believe the World Trade Center disaster had nothing to do with the Palestinian issue? Is it not evident that Israel and the Palestinians have no concern whatsoever about the rest of the World? In that respect they appear to be in complete agreement.

There is no end to an ever increasing number of attacks and counterattacks all over the globe that can be ultimately traced to the conflict in Palestine. A debate as to who is "right" and who is "wrong" serves no purpose. The Holocaust is history; but the rest us are at risk now! The rest of the World has a right to say, "enough is enough"!

 

The Brits were going against everything the 1922 mandate set up for the area. I'm not defending "Terrorism" but when it comes to a war then a military headquarters IS a legitimate target. Why do you think hiroshima was the target of the first A bomb?? The Brits were NOT victims, they were soldiers carring out illegal orders from the 1939 White Paper forward.

 

Him and Meg both.

 

Hey sneakysnake, guess what, Israel has been a nation for 64 years. The Arabs have had the same opportunity to do something with the area they have and guess what? The place they concentrated their money and energy into has been killing Jews. They don't WANT a nation, they just want to kill and cry.

 

So tell us, Lady, how did all these people get killed? Rocks falling from the sky??? The fact that the majority of Muslims agree with what their terrorist brethern are doing and would be doing themself's if someone else were not, says that most are guilty.


http://www.prophetofdoom.net/article.aspx?g=41111

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/TheList.htm

http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.attacks.west.html

http://markhumphrys.com/islamic.attacks.west.html

 

Irrelevant. You are wrongly blaming and condemning all of the hated Semites for the deeds of the individual. Your statement is thus loaded with anti-Semite hostility.

Claiming that the hated Semites are evil does not prove that the hated Semites are evil. What evidence can you provide that the hated Semites are as evil as Israel wants you to believe?

 

As a devout living for the cause, Christian Zionist, I am very cautious of some of the usual suspects, I thinking them plants from neo nazi groups especially holocaust deniers which includes the (non) corrupted idea of the Holocaust, they are all vermin and those that are real NN are dangerous (mostly to themselves) as well.

Anyway to reply to your post; You are correct about the Arabs ill-handling of the land they sit upon. Before the oil they did nothing when it comes to world class activities. Even today as very rich, maybe the richest people and nations in the world, they will not even give their brothers of whom they have FAR more in common with i.e. the SCPians (so called) Palestinians a scrap of land or real assistance of any type! Indeed IMO, they provoke the Israelis and the poor SCPians for reasons that are obvious but will not be covered here for respect of remaining on topic. Thanks for your support beenthere. You know we should form a group of those that support Israel here. I would rather do it by E mail than PM anyone got any ideas (send me a PM if so).

Reva

 

Instead of blaming and condemning the hated Semites for all of the evils in the world, it would make more sense to pressure Israel to accept the nation of Palestine so that the financial investments of many nations are not destroyed through senseless conflict.

The following article is one of many which discusses why Israel would rather destroy foreign investments into Palestine than to accept their nation:

In recent months, the army issued demolition warnings against six solar and wind power systems in the South Hebron Hills, which were funded by European governments and development groups.
http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=459165

Why does Israel need to destroy foreign investments simply so that it can smear the Semites with racist hatred? It is easy for Israel to attack the Semites with anti-Semitism, but can Israel explain why it must destroy foreign investments so that you can condemn Semites?