Russia’s Baltic Radar to Go on Stream 2014

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  1. EvilAztec

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    Russia’s Baltic Radar to Go on Stream 2014

    Russia’s new radar in the Baltic exclave of Kaliningrad will go into operation in 2014, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Wednesday.
    The Voronezh-DM facility was unveiled in November to counter the perceived threat from a U.S.-NATO missile defense system in Europe.
    “This is a new radar station, which is now on trial duty and will be put on full alert in two years,” he said.
    It will track all ballistic missile launches near Russia’s western borders, Rogozin said, adding that similar radars will be built across Russia.
    The radar will be able to monitor simultaneously 500 targets at a distance of up to 6,000 kilometers.

    29/02/2012
    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120229/171611532.html
     
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    Seems similar case like in Stalin time we need to put missiles and kind of invasion of Baltic States, I would mind about that.
     
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    What a crazy scheme , Evil .
    I wonder if Putin really believes there are circumstances where NATO would ever want to fire missiles into Russia?
    Firstly , the assumption must be that Russia would respond with a nuclear strike of some sort .
    But what on earth would the West want from Russia -- their Forests and lovely roads ?
    There is absolutely nothing the West wants .
    If you say , Oil and Gas , the last place you enter the Federation is from the West !!
    Your Oil is in the Urals and Siberia and the Sakhalin Islands are next to Japan .
    It's a pity Putrid doesn't look after his OAPs and the state of his roads before constructing a White Elephant like this one is .
     
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    Are You really believe that NATO is the Cathedral of the Holy Angels but Russia is Mordor?

    Russia Sees No Progress at Missile Defense Talks

    Russia has seen no progress in missile defense talks with NATO, Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said on Wednesday.
    “We have no grounds to speak of progress, no grounds to say that we may agree on a [joint] document by May [when Chicago hosts a NATO summit],” Ryabkov told journalists.
    He also said the Russian leadership has not yet decided whether it will attend the summit.
    “This decision is to be made by the next president. I think it is premature to raise this issue now,” the deputy foreign minister said, adding that the decision may also depend on whether the sides are able to find a compromise on missile defense.

    NATO members agreed to create a missile shield over Europe to protect it against ballistic missiles launched by so-called rogue states, for example Iran and North Korea, at a summit in Lisbon, Portugal, in 2010.
    Russia has strongly criticized NATO’s reluctance to provide written, legally binding guarantees that its European missile shield will not be directed against Moscow.


    President Dmitry Medvedev ordered in November a series of measures designed to strengthen the country’s missile defense capabilities in response to NATO’s shield, including the deployment of Iskander missiles in Russia's exclave of Kaliningrad on the border with Poland.
    http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120229/171617966.html

    If you have forgotten The geography , just take a look at the map of the world and you will see where are Iran and North Korea , and where is Western Europe .
    Between Western Europe and these countries is the space what called country Russia .
     
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    Paranoia allied to a poetic idea of your self importance .
    Russia will be shunned by the international community after their monstrous stance over Syria .
    Who would want to waste a missile on a pariah?
     
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    On the contrary. This is pragmatic approach to the case of safety of The Russia
    By the way, who spoke about Syria? And where is the connection between Syria and U.S. missile defense system in Europe .
    Ray if read your reviews about England, so much poetry in them...
    If you ever in your life visited England, then in general it would be
    plausible.LOL
    As did you love saying "GB Team" ... LOL
     
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    Not GB Team , Evil .
    Team GB .-- we work and play as a Team rather than relying on one player .
    My reference to Syria was more long term .
    The point is that nobody in the West has the slightest interest in moving in to the Federation --- for what?
    If you want to act out your paranoia , there is some rationale for deterring China , who, for several reasons , will give you problems in the East at some time --NOT the West .
    However , nobody will give you any sympathy when that happens , because the rest of the world will treat you like you are treating ordinary Syrians now .
     
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    Raymondo, as far as i understood, you contend that NATO will never attack Russia. Probably, but let's remember the history of creating NATO. It was set up to declare West pretensions to play the key role in the world, to mark the sphere of influence and besides, as one totalitarian regime fell apart according to the results of WWII, capitalist countries wanted to defeat the second one, because nobody knew what they could expect from it. And you know, the first NATO's motto was : "To keep the United States in, Germany down and Soviet Union out." Though then it was changed the general idea of NATO is clear and evident. NATO and the USSR used to confront each other making this world bipolar. Then, what i'd like to say - there is no surprise that Russia expects danger from the West, not Japan for example, because it is just NATO who expands the boundaries to the West, closer to Russia, not Japan or any other state.
     
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    I don't really disagree with your potted History or the literal fact of NATO being almost at Federation borders .
    But let' s move on from NATOs Cold War policy.
    Now NATO is the US and vice versa , I believe you and Putin , more importantly , must see matters in the ways which define present US Geo Political Strategy , as clearly stated and documented .
    Russia does not figure in it . If the Federation had been able to get rid of the little psychopath six years ago , say , Russia might have been able to bring itself into the NATO umbrella and actually create a real economy .
    But that's wishful thinking .History that did not happen . More's the pity .
    The only way that NATO will impinge on the Federation is by taking Georgia ( presently it has) and Ukraine ( presently Moscow is driving it to the US , coupled with a simpleton cipher President who is losing the plot ).
    These are vital countries for pipe lines and the Gas/Oil under the Black Sea .
    But the idea of one country invading another to conquer it by military action is History .Anyhow , Russia is far too weak presently in conventional terms to take on anybody but a small country like Georgia -- not enough professionals and outdated equipment .
    Today you control countries by strangling and/or controlling basic commodities --- Energy , Food and Water .See Russia versus Belarus and Ukraine .
    Russia may be" needed " in terms of an enlarged Umbrella in fifty years time but the Federation will have collapsed well before then
    Presently , Putin gives no idea that he has the remotest idea of how to form or obtain a working Geo Political Strategy . His mind set is locked in his formative years -- KGB and substitute family , and all he can think of is selling a bit of Oil and Gas to the East and a bit more to the West ... no long term vision , other than a tin pot local Customs area which he forces countries to contemplate -- Belarus and Ukraine .
    The West knows that Russia is not developing , and , in fact , is running backwards due to Putin plus huge population decline and health problems .
    If only Putin were not myopic and tunnel visioned , he could work that out for himself and develop a vision suited to the desperate needs of Russia now .
     
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    Russian "Army" is so weak, that it can not fight even Georgia, apart from Baltic States who are NATO members.
     
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    GB Team or Team GB is no difference . You say GB as a team , I doubt that is true.
    For Example Scotland wants to get out of this team . But all this is not important to me .
    I do not understand what do you mean " Syria in the long term " ? If only another one " Libyan version of the forced democratization " , but then I did not see any connection between Syria and U.S. missile defense system in Europe .
    If speak about the paranoia then enough to look at the list of military expenditures .
    EU 300.745.000.000$ , Russia 59.180.120.000$ . http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%EF...E2%EE%E5%ED%ED%FB%EC_%F0%E0%F1%F5%EE%E4%E0%EC
    It seems that EU are sick of paranoia .
    China is ally Russia.
     
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    It's a difficult concept for you , Evil , but we work as a team . We are a team .
    Team GB to be precise .
    The Scots are almost an irrelevance . They contribute very little and have a History of moaning that stretches back many hundreds of years . A few young hot heads want Independence --- let them have it .
    Our lives will be unchanged and if the majority feel happier , that is excellent


    I can see that the relevance of Syria escapes you . I guess I should not be surprised . It is way over Putrid's head , so why should I be surprised that one of his Nashi supporters has the same problem?
    I am glad to picture you happy and captivated by your pictures of Submarines , planes and radar systems . There is nowhere for them to go and not really much to do , but if it brings a few Russians some feelings of patriotism and self esteem , then it has not been a complete mess .
     
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    This is very easy to understand what is Team GB - http://www.next.co.uk/girls/team-gb
    It is very obvious that this organization has little to do with politics UK.In general, Irish people would be also to happy to leave the UK. The Queen will not approve of your attitude to the UK policy
    Well, all right. So what is the connection between Syria and U.S.missile defense system in Europe?
    Can you explain
     
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    Russia preparin' to invade the Baltics?...
    :confusion:
    Russian war games with 12,000 troops trigger Baltic concern
    September 21, 2013 ~ Baltic officials said Friday regional security had been weakened as Russia led military exercises on their doorstep involving almost 12,000 troops.
     

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