It would only take 9 minutes to destroy Israel

The Israelis don't have anything that the Saudis want... or need.

Playing nice means the Israelis don't continue to destroy olive groves, homes and water wells to annex land for Jewish only settlements.

Playing nice must have a different meaning for you than it does for me.

 

Oh Iran has many launchers. And all of their Shahab missiles use similar launchers. Similar, but not the same.

The number of 6 is the number that have been confirmed to have been converted to use for the Shahab-3. They still have plenty of launchers that can handle the Shahab-1 and 2, but these can't fire their longer range Shahab-3 missiles.

Most times when a nation upgrades it's missile equipment, it tries for backwards compatability. But since it can't plan for forwards compatability, the newer missiles will not work on the older equipment. A PATRIOT PAC-3 launcher can fire any PATRIOT missile. A PAC-2 launcher can fire any missile, except for the newer PAC-3 missile. And the same goes here.

The difference in everything other then the launcher itself (electronics, programming system, guidence suite) when making a jump from short range to intermediate range in a ballistic missile is so great, you simply can't make the older launchers fire them without extensive modifications.

And from all I have read, this technology was not developed locally. It came from bits and pieces they got from patching together various parts and pieces of Chinese systems.

 

This is the land of the Jews from time immemorial and the Jews bl---y well do whatever is needed to accommodate Jews from the Diaspora... Arabs have nothing to do with Israel land.
Israel would likely buy back any property genuinely owned by Arabs.

 

In my opinion, we should have exported States' rights along with our democracy product. Not every State has our federal Constitution.

 

Nah... Samaria was settled by arab tribes in 700 BC.. after the ten jewish tribes were expelled and disappeared.

Others have always lived in Palestine.. remember your scripture? They were Goyim, Gentiles of Galilee, Greeks of the Decapolis, Scythians and Arabs in Jerusalem after th Babylonian exile.

You don't have MORE rights than other people just because you are Jewish.

 

Absence of consistency is not unusual on this forum.
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How about consistent threats since 2002?

Israel has been threatening Iran since 2002.. and is playing the role of victim again..

Nov. 2002 Israel's Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has called on the international community to target Iran as soon as the imminent conflict with Iraq is complete.

February 9, 2002: Sharon Argues that Iran ‘A Strategic Threat to Israel’

Ariel Sharon. [Source: US Department of Defense]Prime Minister Ariel Sharon meets with President George W. Bush. According to the Ha’aretz Daily, the goal of the meeting is to “convince the United States that Iran constitutes a strategic threat to Israel.” [Ha'aretz, 2/9/2002]


February 2005: Sharon Authorizes Israeli Attack on Iran’s Nuclear Facilities


During a private meeting of Ariel Sharon’s inner cabinet at the prime minister’s private ranch in the Negev desert, Sharon gives “initial authorization” for an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities. [Sunday Times (London), 3/13/2005]

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO because we are the majority and we have an army that defeated ALL the ARAB Armies attacking us several times!!!

WE DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD FOR US IN OUR REALM... DO NOT LIKE IT??? JUST leave OR FIGHT AND GET CLOBBERED AGAIN!

 

He proved correct, did not he?

LOL you might have missed it but it's March 2012 even in the Middle East, it's been 7 years, he is no longer in charge. It must have been a very open-ended authorization. Seriously are you that desperate to come up with this kind of pathetic nonsense and post it in dozens of unrelated thread?

 

This Saudi Lady must have watched the clip I posted the decapitation of a Sri Lanka woman Citizen in S. Arabia accused of manslaughter because a baby in her charge died suddenly.

 

The threats have continued under Bibi..

Iran is not going to attack Israel..

The lie.. the paranoia.. is a political tactic to justify taking more land in the occupied West Bank.

Every military leader, every diplomat and everyone in the US government knows that is what's going on..

Israel is exactly what it has always been.

 

I may disagree if the State is actually called, Judea.

 

Iran has been attacking Israel through its proxies (Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad etc) for years. And Iran has repeatedly threatened to wipe Israel off the map... I know, I know, your translation of Ahmadinejad's speeches is different...Given that all legitimate and reputable translations are identical, your and Juan Cole's personal translations don't matter.

 

How about a reality check, Borat?

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...n-t-need-west-bank-secure.html#post1060959340

 

You think america and Israel havn't been fighting by proxy? Even if the Iranian regime is subdued, Hamas and Hezbollah will exist until the Palestinian/Israel conflict is dealt with in an equitable way.

Bombing Iran won't solve anything, but Israel and America think it will and their track record on this sort of thing is poor.

 

The reality is that Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, the overwhelming majority of Palestinians, other arab states, the arab street and arab rulers (in no particular order) have all made it abundantly clear by word and deed that they will never accept Jewish Israel in the Middle East in any borders.

 

BULL.. all 22 Arab states signed on the Saudi Peace Initiative in 2003 guaranteeing Israel's security.. Bibi is a fool who will ultimately destroy Israel..

Its idiocy for Israel to try and manipulate the US into a war on Iran.. and if it happens, Israelis with money or education or opportunities will leave Irael in a coud of dust..........

One of the main threats that Israel faces today is from ballistic missiles. Yet everybody knows that holding on to the West Bank won’t help Israel defend itself against missiles coming from Syria or Iran. Even the most extreme hawk would concede this point.

As far as the threat of a land invasion, it is of course true that the distance between the former Green Line and the Mediterranean is very small — at its narrowest point, what is sometimes affectionately known as “Old” Israel is just nine miles wide. As was noted before, it is also true that the West Bank comprises the high ground and overlooks Israel’s coastal plain.

On the other hand, since the West Bank itself is surrounded by Israel on three sides, anybody who tries to enter it from the east is sticking his head into a noose. To make things worse for a prospective invader, the ascent from the Jordan Valley into the heights of Judea and Samaria is topographically one of the most difficult on earth.

Just four roads lead from east to west, all of which are easily blocked by air strikes or by means of precision-guided missiles. To put the icing on the cake, Israeli forces stationed in Jerusalem could quickly cut off the only road connecting the southern portion of the West Bank with its northern section in the event of an armed conflict.

(Martin Van Creveld is the foremost military historian in Israel)

http://www.americantaskforce.org/daily_news_article/2010/12/15/1292389200_23

 

I don't think they have, unless you can name an American/Israeli proxy fighting Iran. A covert war is a better description of what's going on.

They will exist indeed, without nuclear weapons...which makes a "subtle" difference between them being a threat and an existential threat. And I am sure you are quite aware of the fact the only "equitable" solution these respectable organizations will accept is the ones that remove Israel from the Middle East.

Please allow me to disagree (although I will concentrate on Israel, not the US). Bombing the Iraqi nuclear program solved the problem, bombing the Syrian nuclear program solved the problem, bombing the crap out of Jordan and Egypt in 1967 led to peace with those countries, bombing the crap out of Syria led to quiet on the Syrian border, bombing the crap out of Hezbollah has assured years of quiet on the Lebanese border, bombing the crap out Gaza has assured a near quiet on the Gaza border. LOL, come to think about it, bombing the crap out of Israel's enemies seems to be the only thing that actually works.

 

Oh, not this sh*t again A non-negotiable ultimatum demanding that Israel committed a demographic suicide (letting 5 million pseudo-refugees in) and military suicide (indefensible borders) in exchange for nothing is not a peace plan, it's a cheap PR stunt. Let alone the fact that all terrorist organizations vowed to continue their fight against Israel. Let alone the fact that Iran not being an arab country was not a signatory.

 

You obviously never read the peace plan.. You'd prefer to drag the US into a war for Israel's paranoia.

But, maybe paranoia is the glue that holds Zionism in place.

http://www.americantaskforce.org/daily_news_article/2010/12/15/1292389200_23

To save itself from such a fate, Israel should rid itself of the West Bank, most of Arab Jerusalem specifically included. If possible, it should do so by agreement with the Palestinian Authority; if not, then it should proceed unilaterally, as the — in my view, very successful — withdrawal from Gaza suggests. Or else I would strongly advise my children and grandson to seek some other, less purblind and less stiff-necked, country to live in.

 

Sure did, non-negotiable ultimatum, demanding Israel to commit demographic and military suicide in exchange for more terror attacks. Thanks but no thanks.

 

The link from the forward which is an American Paper...

For other publications with a similar name, see Forward (generic name of socialist publications).

The Forward
The Forward (Yiddish: פֿאָרווערטס; Forverts), commonly known as The Jewish Daily Forward, is a Jewish-American newspaper published in New York City. The publication began in 1897 as a Yiddish-language daily issued by dissidents from the Socialist Labor Party of Daniel DeLeon. As a privately-owned publication loosely affiliated with the Socialist Party of America, Forverts achieved massive circulation and considerable political influence during the first three decades of the 20th Century. The publication still exists as a weekly news magazine in parallel Yiddish (Yiddish Forward) and English editions (The Jewish Daily Forward).

I would not use this paper to send packages to Timbuktu, we use plastic chips to hold the merchandise in boxes nowadays.

 

The piece was written by Martin Creveld and published in many , many news outlets.

You may also note that Meir Dagan and Tamir Pardo agree that Iran is NOT a threat.

 

Who cares what Martin Creveld thinks when all military people disagree with his pseudo-military theories.

Lying again? none of them said Iran is not a threat. Here is the full Pardo's quote.

“What is the significance of the term existential threat?” the ambassadors quoted Pardo as asking. “Does Iran pose a threat to Israel? Absolutely. But if one said a nuclear bomb in Iranian hands was an existential threat, that would mean that we would have to close up shop and go home. That’s not the situation. The term existential threat is used too freely.”

 

No, Samaria was the capitol of the Kingdom of Israel. The Kingdom of Judea was to the South.