Why Limbaugh apologized and Maher didnt

Nate, welcome to PF. Just a warning, when you present proof and provide logical arguments the wingnuts will just glance over it and keep repeating lies and innuendos. It gets unbelievably frustrating at times.

 

Now try to fathom how stupid a person has to be to support his position and defend him.... incredible isnt it?

 

Maher called palin a (*)(*)(*)(*) during a stand up comedy routine, it wasn't political commentary on a talk show. He's also a mealy mouth comedian and admits it.

You know the difference between Rush and Maher? Maher can actually stand up to a live audience and make people laugh at his jokes for an hour. If Rush ever tried that people would be laughing at him and he'd fail miserably.

 

So why is ok for Abe to call Betty a "(*)(*)(*)(*)" but it's not ok for Charlie to call Darlene a "slut"?

You need to explain this to me again so I can follow you.

Explain it to me slowly because I'm just a conservative and therefore not as smart as you.

 

No no no... your not as smart as him because you limit your capacity for rational thought by running all your thoughts through your socialist conservative filter before investigating any of them.

 

If blubber bellies doens't like having to cater to sponsors, and confine himself to the rules of decency on the PUBLIC free airwaves, perhaps he should move on to HBO, where he can speak his maniacal venom and fatness unrestricted?

 

Rush is just an entertainer.....but entertainers can have alot of influence on politics......Look at Bono from U2.......He is very outspoken on political issues and is taken very seriously by the left......It's the same with Rush, on the right.

 

It's not about whether it is "OK" or not. It is about the venue that Maher and Limbaugh chose.

It's one thing for a minister to tell a slightly off-color, racy joke in the men's locker room at the country club after a round of golf. It is another thing entirely for him to tell that same joke from the pulpit on SUnday... and then expect his parishioners to cough up their hard earned money into the collection plate!

HBO is like a Vegas night club. You can say the "f" word on it... you can say the "c" word on it.... you can say the "n" word on it.... you can be offensive and crude and get laughs just like comedians do in Vegas every single night of the week. YOu gotta PAY MONEY to watch HBO.... in other words, you gotta want to listen to and see the sort of stuff that HBO puts out. If Bill Maher is not funny or if he offends more paying customers than he makes laugh, and they let HBO know that they don't find him entertaining anymore, then Bill Maher's show will be cancelled.

The public airwaves are just that... they are PUBLIC. It's like standing on the street corner shouting at the passers by. But, like all radio talkers, Rush needs to meet certain standards of public decency that no one sets for Vegas comics. AND... he needs to keep his broadcast interesting enough AND clean enough so that he meets the public standards AND he attracts sponsors who will pay him money to say what he says. When he says things that the public finds offensive...or that his sponsors find uncomfortable and not in keeping with their corporate image, then Rush has a problem.

Different venues.... understandably different standards of behavior.

Did that explain if for you? I hope so.

You're welcome.

 

Daniel Fincke on Freethought Blogs wrote the following:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/camelswithhammers/2012/03/11/bill-maher-on-rush-limbaugh-freedom-of-speech-and-misogyny

Now, I disagree that Maher is a misogynist (he never should have called Sarah Palin a c**t, but that does not make him misogynistic), but I agree with the rest of this blog. I watched that episode of Maher where he tried to explain his tweet, and I felt he failed. Rush did not just make a bad joke... Rush cashed in on inherent, institutionalized misogyny.

Bill Maher lost advertisers over a comment that I personally agree with, to a point. I do not agree that the US were being cowards, but to call the terrorists, who came on to our soil and attacked from our own soil "cowards" is unintelligent. They are not cowards. Misguided, evil, and wrong, maybe, but not cowards. I don't think Maher ever should have lost advertisers.

But Limbaugh has been needing to lose advertisers for a very long time, now. After all the crap he's said and done, it's almost disappointing that it took this incident for them to wake up and see the disgusting, misogynistic, racist, homophobic tub of lard they've been supporting for all these years.

 

Maher never called "women (*)(*)(*)(*)s" in his stand up routine (if I am not mistaken) he called palin that.

Rush on the other hand did speak about women in general and fluke in specific for several days.

You in your defense of rush want to equate both.

 

Bill Maher is a "Stand-Up Comedian" who gets PAID for his Comedy!

Otherwise ... he would not have a JOB!

What part of this do Conservatives don't understand?

 

You know what they say about opinions. Still excusing liberal hate I see.

 

Maher also gives political commentary and exposes his hate often.

 

so do vegas stand up comics every night of the week.... that's what they get paid to do.

they do NOT broadcast on the public airwave and they do NOT have corporate sponsorships who are trying to make sure that what they sponsor conforms to their corporate image.

 

Yea ,,, Funny as Hell ...

Once again, what part of Comedy don't you get?

 

Just because you are incapable of believing anything but labels, both are entertainers, both give political commentary, Maher often injects humor but often only exposes his hatred like calling women c_nts. I see you still think that is OK.

 

Miss this one?

 

I see you are still eagerly feeding in the trough of GOP lies.

Limbaugh is not an entertainer, nor he is perceived as one. In 2010 RNC Chairman Michael Steele made the mistake of calling Limbaugh "just an entertainer", he eventually was forced to apologize to Limbaugh, due to the outrage he received. Steele had to make amends after his apology to Limbaugh, by calling him a "valuable conservative voice for our party".

The only reason Limbaugh and his GOP defenders are calling him an entertainer now, is for political expediency to take force away from his misogynistic remarks.

This is because Limbaugh is perceived and has always advertised himself as a leader for the republican party. He regularly refers to himself as the "Doctor of Democracy", the "Big Voice on the Right", and "America's Truth Detector". This is why his comments were heavily defended by Republican politicians.

Maher wasn't defended by any democrat politicians, because they don't take their policy ques and grovel at his feet like the republicans do with Limbaugh.

 

I'm still trying to find where RL refers to himself as the "leader for the Republican party"....or where any Republican refers to him as such.

 

Either you don't listen to Rush, or you haven't been paying attention to how much groveling at his feet the republican leaders are doing.

The cognitive dissonance espoused by our friends on the right, is simply enormous.

Today, they claim that Limbaugh is simply an entertainer. But just two-years ago, they were mad as hell when Michael Steele called Limbaugh simply an entertainer.

 

It is not my problem liberals are so confused that they can't understand the world around them. Limbaugh is an entertainer and entertains for 3 hours a day on the radio. You have a choice to tune in or not.

Now here is the really hard part for liberals since they expect government to do their thinking for them. Conservatives believe in thinking for one's self. I know, I know, you will never be able to understand that, but that being the case, I am not surprised you think he is some kind of leader.

 

Okay. Let's say you're right. Let's accept this.

Why was Michael Steele lambasted for calling Rush Limbaugh an entertainer and forced to apologize to him?

 

another excellent example of the difference between Limbaugh and Maher....

no democratic politician, let alone a democratic presidential candidate EVER said that because New York City was Bill Maher's hometown, when people visited there, it was akin to a visit to Mecca!!!!

http://www.alternet.org/newsandview...h's_hometown_&_compares_it_to_visiting_mecca/


"This is my first trip to Cape Girardeau," Santorum told the crowd. "Jo Ann's been bragging on you a long time. It's good to be in the hometown of Rush Limbaugh, which some people see as a trip to Mecca."


People who want the republican nomination for president of the united states make pilgrimages to Cape Girardeau because it is the home of .... "just an entertainer"???? ROFLMFAO

Rush and Bill... just two not so funny guys telling funny jokes and calling women names... no difference....

 

CUE CRICKETS

I've brought up the Michael Steele scandal from 2010 numerous times already on these forums, and I've yet to get any sort of reply from our conservative friends about it.

For those who aren't aware: In 2010, Michael Steele was forced to apologize to Limbaugh, after he referred to Limbaugh as "just an entertainer".

Will any conservatives dare touch the hypocrisy exerted by conservative groups in 2010 who were outraged when Michael Steele referred to Limbaugh as just an entertainer?

Expect nothing but silence by the GOP and conservatives on this hypocrisy, and this is because, they do in fact, perceive Limbaugh more than just an entertainer, they perceive Limbaugh as their visionary, their voice, and their leader.

 

Actually the reference to islam isnt that bad, rush has about the same mindframe as islam: backwards by a couple of centurys .