Far Right anti Islam Demo in Denmark and guess whose flags are flying

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Isn't it funny. You can quote a marxist who of course doesn't have any agenda at all. Since Rose was a marxist and the link I gave is word for word what you posted (without a link) then tell me where did you find this?

    As for zionist critique. I guess being there wasn't enough. Sherret was an eyewitness to some of the events hecht erroneously describes. He was heavily involved before the war, during the war and after the war. He of course couldnt' possibly be in a position to correct inconsistencies and errors from an author who was safe in america the whole time.


    I've done some additional research. The weizmann quote attributed to a keynote speech in 1912, never happened. there is absolutely no record of weizmann being in Germany and there was no zionist conference in 1912 in Berlin. Weizmann lived in England at the time.

    I have repeatedly found this quote. It is on rense, and marxist sites, and anti=zionist sites, and anti-semitic sites. There doesn't seem to be one credible academic source that claims he said it. Duped again ol' bean.

    The whole paragraph in which the bogus quote about not being welcome reads like this:

    "Of course, the Zionists’ terrible attitude to the Nazis must never be allowed to hide or disfigure the tremendous courage shown by Jewish resistance fighters against the Nazis. They had to contend, not only with the Nazis, but also with what amounted to a Zionist “fifth column” in their own ranks, whispering “do not fight, you cannot fight, the German Nazis are right, you are not welcome in Europe. You do not belong here.”

    Oh dear. kind of changes the flavour a bit. You claim that the "quote" is "attributed to zionists"? Hmmm. great scholarship there.


    Really, what exactly did brenner analyse? Your original post was written by Rose. He used some quotes using brenner as the source document of the quotes and that's it. There isn't a hint of analysis from Brenner. Boy that some academic mind you have there.

    As for avinery. He was right. Much more could have been done, but wasn't largely because the zionists in palestine were surprise suprise .. more concerned about establishing Israel. Does that make them nazis or nazi lovers or fascists? Only a moron could conclude that.

    You claim to have a masters degree, but you do not exhibit much in the way of scholarly argument or analysis.

    This relative nobody is more somebody than you it seems.
     
  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its been debunked for everyone except the Intransigently Ignorant.

    Democracy is an anethema to fascism.

    Or do you subscribe to moon's version ... its not classic fascism but its fascism. :spin::spin::spin::spin:
     
  3. zulu1

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    Yes it's from Rose who is a Jewish Marxist. Since when has political affiliation and truth necessarily been mutually incompatiable. You just don't like the truth because it runs counter to your prejudices.
     
  4. zulu1

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    It's a 'democracy' only for Jews and is a fascist state. Most rational people are able to grasp this, irrational apologists for fascism, don't.
     
  5. holier than thou

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    zieg heil lol... I'm wondering what makes them far right though? You know more about them than I do... are they far right because they're anti-islam? I ask because sometimes I think 'far right' and 'far left' are just labels to throw around...
     
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    Awkaaay, Rose has got an agenda despite citing various Jewish academics to support his thesis, but the Zionist fascist, Sherret, hasn't?
     
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    Of course, you can substantiate this tosh, yeah of course you can.
     
  8. zulu1

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    Huh? Displaying your inability for comprehension again Jonsa. The Zionists were sympathetic to the Nazi's and the brave Jews had to not only fight against the latter but also the former which amounted to a fifth column in their own ranks. What do you not understand about that?
     
  9. zulu1

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    Rose cited Brenner to support his argument. You've provided zilch other than the position of a Zionist fascist.

    Avinery's position is consistent to the thesis underlying Rose's piece and hence supports the case that the Zionists were ideologically aligned to the Nazi's......You've so far failed to convincingly counter this....Next.

    Oh, and I'll ignore your personal attacks.
     
  10. The Doctor

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    No, no they weren't that is an out and out lie.
     
  11. zulu1

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    Belied by the evidence, old boy. Denialism begats apologism. Just ask Jonsa.
     
  12. The Doctor

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    Nope Israel is a liberal democracy for all of its citizens including their nearly 30% Arab population who enjoy the exact same rights and privileges as Jewish Israelis.

    Only lying Islamic Imperialist pedophile worshiping genocidal pigs deny the incontestable true of Israeli liberal democracy.
     
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    lol you posted the claim, the burden of proof for its authenticity lies on you, where is your primary source?
     
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    You haven't posted any evidence other than the Zionists trying to save Jews from German oppression and genocide.
     
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    Crap. I've got a feeling even Jonsa will not be convinced of that nonsense.
     
  16. zulu1

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    Huh? Yes, I guess you know what you are babbling on about. I'm sure nobody else does.
     
  17. zulu1

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    I've already posted it.
     
  18. The Doctor

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    That's not a primary source, aww they never taught you what a primary source is in your Madrassas did they?
     
  19. zulu1

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    I posted the primary source. Madrasses? I was educated in Torquay Grammar School, Devon.
     
  20. The Doctor

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    Then post the law which discriminates against Israeli citizens based on race, creed, or religion.
     
  21. The Doctor

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    No you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing didn't, you at best posted a secondary source which itself did not cite a primary source.

    You posted this quote off of a website:

    "Each country can only absorb a limited number of Jews, if she doesn’t want disorders in her stomach. Germany has already too many Jews."

    Which in turn cited this:

    (Quoted in Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, Beckenham, Kent, 1983, p. 34).

    And that IS NOT a primary source, now perhaps Brenner cites a primary source but since we don't have that book at our fingertip to check his reference page we do not know, so I ask again where is the primary source for this alleged quote?


    And they didn't teach you what a primary source is? lol sure you did sport, sure you did. :roll:
     
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    http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/agedict/index.htm
     
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    Moon's gone through this, repeatedly, on other threads. It's frankly tiresome.
     
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    He has done no such (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing, laws regarding foreigners wanting to become citizens does not discriminate against Israeli citizens, now show me the law which discriminates against Israeli citizens based on race, creed or religion. You won't because you can't, you just claim imagined previous victories that can not be easily copy/pasted as an actual post would because they only exist within your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mind. :roll:
     

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