What is Obama's Plan for the Economy, Unemployment, Deficit, Debt?

What about the wealthy who aren't 'corporate'?

 

Is there still such a thing? How many of the 1% AREN'T corporate exactly? Gimme some stats and I'll let you know.

 

Well, my parents are technically in the 1%, they're both healthcare providers. If I marry as my parents wish, I will be too. We'd both be healthcare providers. I don't think I'm a corporate raider.

Check this: http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/newsgraphics/2012/0115-one-percent-occupations/index.html

 

Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend, Spend!

 

Right now, Obama does have have a plan. He is too busy pandering to voters to make one. This always happens at election time. Remember how Bush was pushing gay marriage and other nonissues, instead of the economy, and other real ones in 2004 and 2005 when he was try to get reelected.

 

Very strange URL. "Managers" are the biggest block of the 1%? Really? That's very general. I mean, Tony Soprano (if he were real) is a "manager".

From what I gathered, the 1% consists of primarily, things to do with Wall street, Doctors, and the medical industry (surprise, surprise), banks, and lawyers.

Well, if it's really only these groups that constitute the bulk of the 1%, then perhaps we can fix the problem. Start with Wall street, medical insurance and CEO types, and banks and jail them all. Watch the "plan" change for the rest of the 99% BY the remaining 1%ers.

As to your specific situation? You're born into wealth. How's that supposed to help your cause here?

 

Obama's plan was to change America........google Cloward Piven strategy.

 

Why jail them? So you think your war against the 1% is then right or wrong? I think wrong, not sure if you've seen the light yet.

One's background shouldn't matter, not sure why you're thinking it would.

 

The wealthy are all capturing their extraordinary income from some form of privilege.

The corporate charter is just one form of privilege, there are many others.

The wealth of your parents and yourself is built around licensing privileges, which are designed to create scarcity of service providers. This artificial scarcity allows the license holder to charge exorbitant wage rates.

Personally I think the government needs to abolish the American Medical Associations influence over licensing. Then create funding to train and license enough medical providers to drive the average wage of doctors down to $60K per year. That would be the most economical way to make healthcare affordable.

 

Why jail them? Because that would capture the bulk of the culprits who manipulated/corrupted/stole (pick your word) that caused the biggest problems affecting society in general. Jail a few of them and punish that behavior instead of rewarding it, COULD change that. As it stands today, corruption is rewarded. Skirting the rules of law are rewarded. Jailing a good lot of them would go far in rectifying the problem.

My point on background (as you put it), is that's all well and good for the folks born into wealth (like you). What about the rest of society who aren't born into wealth? What are they supposed to do? Marry into the family???

 

I think the FDA and AMA needs to be abolished. Then, we repeal Obamacare and replace it with a series of non-profit hospitals, paid for by an optional tax. Any American who chooses to opt out of this tax can use private insurance and hospitals. Doctors nurses and other employees of these public hospitals will be paid out of tax money, just like police, and any excess money after expenses are paid, will be refunded to the taxpayers. This type of system would take banks, and insurance companies out of the running.

 

I'm not specifically against doctors making top dollar. At least they try to do some good in society. I have a problem with all the "latchers on", so to speak. Like insurance companies, like insurance providers, like CEO hackers, etc. The focus is cash...NOT health.

 

The problem isn't with that, it's with students. Such a small fraction of those who set-out as Pre-Med actually finish with an MD. Same goes for Pharmacy or RNs. The standards aren't even that high.

They're supposed to get an education or work hard, right?

 

The problem is the corporate masters keep demanding a bigger and bigger slice of the pie. RN's for example. The big boys don't want to pay an RN a higher wage, so they just lower the standards, change the rules. Now LPN's are all the rage. Why? They're cheaper. The big boys don't want educated people. Students are just fine. They''re cheap. Put them in a white uniform and the patient will never know any better. Isn't that lovely? Meanwhile, we have giant cancer centers, trips to Vegas for the select few, new software to "cut costs", CEO hacks looking for government handouts by becoming more "efficient". Meanwhile, care goes down (your "Nurse" is just a green, part time, low ranking bedpan changer....and it cost what, 5K, 10K a day? For what? It AIN'T the high labor costs for sure. It's the "select few" that reap the cash. The "providers" the "managers". Plenty of cash for them, but only cuts for the quality of the staff. Now where have I heard that one before??? Oh yeah..the RNC!!! Yes..we need more "managers" in health care. The actual health care??? Chemicals from the friendly pharma rep will work.

 

Tort litigation accounts for less than 1% of premium costs. Bankruptcy accounts for over 15% of the cost of administration of health care. Lots of people don't pay. As a matter of fact, if you get a major illness of injury, you will likely file bankruptcy within 18 months. Over 60% of all bankruptcies (personal - Chapter 7s & 13s) are directly attributible to medical bills.
We're getting off topic though, aren't we. Oops.

 

The RNs, even in my opinion, are generally over-paid considering what they do. Not to mention they have no set defined role these days. Doctors, PAs, Pharmacists and so forth end up doing much of their work. But back to the same point.

Regardless of my background, I went and got an education. I'm not in the 1%, not that close either, but many in similar education settings are.

 

Bull. He does too. Here, just let me check the Table of Contents in Alinsky's book...

 

Seriously, he's presented lots of ideas and concrete plans with specifics. Just like the Republicans. But you will reject any merit his plans may have, just as LibDems will reject the valid points the GOP makes. So why even ask?

 

Those bankruptcies mean that the patient does not pay, but the hospital and doctor gets paid by the rise in overall costs, a part of which is just for the purpose of covering those anticipated losses.

It is the same with Shop Lifting.
The store price contains the expense of the shop lifting, so the honest customers pay enough with their purchases to of set that expense.

 

The Economy, Unemployment, Deficit and Debt are going according to Obama's plan. Which is bringing the U.S. to it's knees and converting it to a Banana Republic.

 

The problem with Health Care is that the patient does not pay, and most often has no idea of what the medical services are charging.
The patient OK's whatever tretment the medical professionals recommend, without discussion of the cost and absence any competition as would help control fees in other industries and businesses.

This "third party" payee system encourages patients to get what seems Free Services and any and all treatments or exploratory work that can be paid for by the insurance.

The medical services industry is unique in that people are encouraged to "buy" whatever those "Businesses" want to sell, (doctors/hospitals ARE in business).

People do not seem to even notice that programs like prescription drugs do not really pay for the drugs after enough time has allowed the government "contribution" to the drug store to become meaningless as the i8nflation for the drugs spiral upwards every year, well above the real inflation or even flat prices, like during 2008-2010.

In a word, "rip-off."

 

I have seen a lot of people who are perfectly able to study medicine get denied to med schools for years (it is not so bad here because it is not a one time thing). I've read that the US med schools also denies plenty of smart and dedicated people. I have come to believe that the usual "merit" criteria for entering med school is about just as empty as the money argument. Don't take me wrong, the person can't be a retard doctor, but also grades/ standardized scores say little about the performance a person will have once he is working, much less than the actual quality of the education he gets. Shouldn't those just as smart kids be able to pay for med school just like people who get admited. Scarcity of spots in med schools reveals that either med schools are being subsidized (ie, if someone wanted to open up his own med school, the tuition would be so expensive that not enough people would be willing to pay), which doesn't seem to be quite true, or that something is artificially blocking possible new med schools access to the market (more likely).

That said, as a medical student here, It is really hard to grasp what makes schools require 4 years of college education to get into med school, it seems like some dumb tradition, so I can only guess what is behind that ( no competition between med schools ). I say this not because I am trying to be different, but because when I look back at my first year of med school (here we have a 6 years course), I can easily recognize that most of those biochemistry/ biology things are pretty useless and that I could actually have learned all the things I did (useful and useless) much faster (and maybe more efficiently), if my school were different.

So I make you a final question: should people be offered a wider range of graduation paths to choose from, do you not think that some of those people would graduate faster and have a better work performance than the average John who go through the traditional 4 years college, 4 years med school?

 

What plans? The only plans Republicans can agree on is to cut some tiny amount of money years from now. Paul Ryan's plan that balances the budget in the 30 years? Please. The Republicans are the same as Obama. The only good Republicans are Ron Paul and Rand Paul. They actually propose cuts, not this "cutting" propaganda that the establishment spews out... you know, "not increasing spending quite as much as planned." Yeah, great "cuts" there, Republicans.

 

I've never really seen anyone get denied from Med School with a 3.5 or above, which I think is the standard.

Really? I think they're all necessary. I went for pharmacy and everything from undergraduate biology and chemistry courses were pretty important until graduation. First-year graduate courses in Biochem or Pharmacology were also pretty important. I can only imagine the same from Med School, as half my friends are either enrolled or finishing their residencies.

I, for example, finished my undergraduate in 2 years. I had some credit from secondary school, IBs, and took a heavy course-load. I finished pharmacy in 4, though.

 

Um yes, so you reinforce my point. Um thank you I guess...