Alan Dershowitz: Drop George Zimmerman’s murder charge

Biased posts? Why don`t you give us an example of a biased post, so we`ll be able to recognise one in the future?

 

Once again, with the bullcrap pseudo debate.

You have no idea how good a fighter EITHER of them are/were, and "how many times have you been sucker punched" is completely irrelevant, as any thinking man knows, because I am not either of them,and my experiences do not automatically mirror theirs.

Got any more logical flaws you want to try?

 

I don't know why we have all the sucker-punch speculation. I've been in one fight in my entire life. I was sucker-punched. That side of my face swelled up within 15 minutes. That was the only hit they got in though. Srsly, Trayvon had a can of tea, not a baseball bat.

 

Can anyone verify that Zimmerman had worked as a bouncer? Was he taking Adderall or Temazepam?

 

These discussions were very good.

A medical report by George Zimmerman’s doctor has disclosed that Zimmerman had a fractured nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and a back injury on the day after the fatal shooting. If this evidence turns out to be valid, the prosecutor will have no choice but to drop the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman — if she wants to act ethically, lawfully and professionally.

There is, of course, no assurance that the special prosecutor handling the case, State Attorney Angela Corey, will do the right thing. Because until now, her actions have been anything but ethical, lawful and professional.

She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. The New York Times has reported that the police had “a full face picture” of Zimmerman, before paramedics treated him, that showed “a bloodied nose.” The prosecutor also had photographic evidence of bruises to the back of his head.


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...murder-charge-article-1.1080161#ixzz1vSW9qZb2

 

Yep she also had a 17 yr old, 5'11", 158lb kid lying in the morgue with a gunshot wound in his chest. Shot by a stinking coward.

 

You are the only one, well actually not just you that is slinging the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) pretty thick.

Again have you ever been sucker punched? I have been in a few brawls in my life as a kid and an adult. I have seen a few brawls in my life as a kid and an adult. This kid's nickname was "Slimm" do you think they called him that because he had muscles coming out of his ears. If this 5'11", 158lb kid beat Zimmerman's ass as you and he are trying to claim then he is a straight up (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) I'm sorry. Any real man can easily handle a kid this size.

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Being a coward does not strip you the right of self defense.

 

It should if you are using a loaded gun to get some courage.

 

Not familiar with the law I see. Not surprised. Having the right to defend yourself includes any means possible to avoid imminent death or great bodily harm.

 

I don't understand why the pictures supposedly support Zimmerman's story. He does not look like someone who got beat up. I would like to know where he kept the gun exactly. I know it was his waistband, but if Trayvon was sitting on him, how did he get it out? Esp. as he was getting (*)(*)(*)(*) beat out of him at the time. To find Zimmerman not culpable, you have to completely ignore human nature. Logic tells us that Zimmerman did not get the gun out of his waistband while Trayvon was sitting on top of him beating him up.

 

This would have never happened if Trayvon just dialed 911 instead of trying to be a hero.

 

Actually he was being beaten up. A witness places Zimmerman on his back and Martin on top giving him MMA punches to the face.

 

That is not what the Constitution says.

 

You mean emotion, not logic. You are making assumptions you know nothing about. The easiest way to get a gun is if it is open carry, the next conceal carry in the inside waistband on your strong side. The story related so far is that it came exposed when Zimmerman was trying to move away from the sidewalk where Trayvon was pounding it. Easy to get after that by both parties.

 

The racist who want Zimmerman call that 'not beaten up'.

 

Well, they are in complete denial of the evidence and are also calling the injury to Trayvon's knuckle not an injury.

 

According to the autopsy, there was no injury to Trayvon's knuckles. Sorry.

If Trayvon was beating Zimmerman MMA style and hitting his mark, why don't the pictures show it?

 

I don’t know and neither do you, that’s my point. In hindsight it looks like bad judgment calls from both sides.

Well, Zimmerman had marks on his head and a witness ”………recalled seeing “a black male, wearing a dark colored ‘hoodie’ on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help.” The black male, he added, “was mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches ‘MMA (mixed martial arts) style.'”……..”

But, perhaps the witness is lying and Zimmerman beat his own head on the ground……………..

Not really, I have seen absurd conjectures from both “sides”, most not worth debate. On other hand, I have, on occasion, seen you approach a topic with reason and logic. Just not necessarily this time.

To me, it looks like a chain of events that escalated out of control until someone was dead, a scenario which occurs more often than most realize.

 

Courts view head injuries as a serious matter no matter how severe they are. Injuries to the head show the person who inflicted them are trying to do serious injury.

 

Really? Who's "courts"?

 

Thats just it, most of you keep claiming to know what happened.

Was Trayvon also wearing leather gloves. How is it that a person can be throwing those kinds of blows and not have any serious damage to their knuckles. I thought he was wearing a light colored hoodie.

Perhaps is right, it is funny how the witness missed the start of the altercation and didn't see the fatal shot being fired.

I have to give 12th credit that is all she has done is approach this incident with reason and logic.

Yep and Zimmerman put those chain of events in motion.

 

Hummm, I just stated I couldn&#8217;t know what exactly happened. Are you claiming to &#8220;know&#8221;?

Mixed Martial Arts style is not big on knuckle punches. But, whatever, this portion of my post was a quote from news sources. We would probably need slow motion footage to analyze every blow.

I don&#8217;t have trouble believing a witness did not see the beginning or end of a confrontation.

No, she/he has approached this incident with conjecture and supposition. As have most who post about it, on both sides. Made obvious, it is the tendency of those with similar partisan views to believe logic exudes from their cohorts.

The meeting of those two at that particular time and place set events in motion. I doubt that either one knew how it would unfold.

 

I believe I said none of us knows exactly what happened.

MMA style, is there any evidence that this 17yr old kid was a MMA fighter.

I do, because most folks will either try and stop it or will stand and watch it.

I think she has approached it with logic and reason.

I can't argue with that.

True, but only one of them is responsible for those events going into motion and that would be Zimmerman.