The Catholic Church is a criminal organization...

So you are a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing racist. Thanks for letting me know.

 

I also observe the sabbath. In case you did not realise there was made a new covenant. Tell me do you also think everyone should be circumsised?. The new Sabbath is on Sunday the day of the resurrection. Do you also only eat the meat Jews eat?.

 

My pleasure.

http://youtu.be/48V3JxqdbGg

 

But what would the Americans say if the red indians would kick them out of the USA in the year 2500? "Go back to India!"?

It's often very diffcult to say what was really good or what was really bad in history. The Sephardim were able to live with Muslim as Jews - but were not able to live with "Christians" as Jews. By the way: the people in former times often used a violent speach, a brave heart and soft methods. The people today are using often a friendly speach and violent methods without any heart - but seem to feel always as if they would be the best human beings ever had existed.

http://youtu.be/DMYm1LL-E5Y

 

All I said was the first Christians observed the Sabbath I never said they commanded circumcision.

So does that mean you don't do any work on Sunday the same way it was forbidden on the Old Testament Sabbath?

 

If, why?

http://youtu.be/4u_7SH02mAA

 

That is correct I avoid all unneccessary work on a Sunday. If your work demands it you must work and there is exemptions, like if you are a surgeon, or a nurse, policeman. I work in a plant that makes diesel generators, and I also have a small hobby farm. If say the animals needed help on a Sunday I cannot hold of to Monday, there is some instnces when we must make exceptions, and Jesus even spoke of this.

 

Then you’re the only person I know who observe Sunday and don't do any personal work on it. However, there is no scripture in the Bible that tells us that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday; it's just a personal choice.

 

It is not a personal choice. The earliest Christians believed the new Sabbath was changed to a Sunday it is documented. You are correct there is no word of it in the Bible, but I do not rely on Sola Scriptura. Tell me what does the Bible say about IVF, or contraception, embroyonic stem cell research, we need the authority of the Church to expound on these types of things. God did not leave us to try and figure out everything from the good book on our own merit. He founded also the institution of the Church, which canexpound and clarify things as the world moves on and changes.

 

Oh, by the way most proper practising Catholic observe avoiding unneccassary work on a Sunday. Many cradle Catholics do not know their faith properly and are badly catechised. I am trying to learn and seek out more of the truth that is my faith.

 

Because they believe that it was changed to Sunday does not mean it was........there is no scripture that said it was. The true Sabbath is in Jesus.....Jesus is the rest for all His people.

 

Where did you get the Scripture you read from?.
The early Church believed the new Sabbath was on a Sunday. There was a new covenant after the death and ressurection of Jesus. Scripture also does not say to use only the Bible as an authority. There is certain things that have been handed on down through the ages. Tell me what does scripture say about IVF, and contraception. The Bible contains the truth, but some things are not clear and the Church can expound on and clarify. We have the Church for these things, it can speak authoratively. Where as you can only go on a personal interpretation and you even claim yourselves you cannot speak authoratively.

 

Jesus....the true rest for the people of God.

Matthew 11:29 (NKJV)
29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

Now, can you show me in the Bible where Sunday is the New Sabbath?

 

I do not go by Sola Scriptura, the early Church has always accepted the sabbath on a Sunday right back to just after Christ's ascension. the same people who compiled the Bible you read from accepted it. You have not answered the questions who compiled the Bible?, who told you it contained the truth?. It is the Church that Protestantism rebelled from, that told you these things now you try and use the Bible against the very institution that gave you it. The Bible warns of self interpretation of the Bible without using the Church to guide us, yet that is exactly what protestants do. Why do you accept the teaching of the Holy Trinity where is that in the Bible?, where is the divinity of Jesus in the Bible?. Where in the Bible does it say to use the Bible as the only authority, as matter of fact it states the Church has authority.

 

And I do not live by what other people believe.....I live by what the Bible teach, and the scripture clearly says in Jesus I would find rest for my soul.

 

Once again I will ask you these question why do you believe the Bible to be true?. Where did this notion arrive from, that the Bible contained the truth?. Who compiled the Bible?. The Bible also teaches the authority of the Church, and it's representatives, why ignore these parts?. The Bible also teaches against self interpretation of Holy Scripture. God bless.

 

When you can prove from the Bible that Peter was regarded as the first pope then I will answer your question.

 

What about the following answer? The great bridge builder Petrus decided himselve to be this kind of stone Jesus told him to be - by founding the catholic church and christian religion with some simple words of truth:

After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: 'Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles should hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.' http://youtu.be/_JJx_NkT2N4

Nevertheless I don't think that you are able to become a Catholic even if you would like to accept the authority of Petrus and his followers as popes of the catholic church.

http://youtu.be/bh3rsLYCtsw

 

Matthew 16:18-19 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and ipon this rock I will build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
I do not think it gets much plainer than that, remember St. Peter was previously called Simon. Why did Jesus change his name?, Peter means rockin that language, so it clear why Jesus changed his name thou it was not ecvident before. Abraham also used to be called Abram, God also changed his name and also gave him authority over the chosen people.
Look at these verses in all of them God has given supreme authority to Peter and other certain individuals, or implies that they have supreme authority.
Genesis 41:39-41, Genesis 43:19, 1 Kings 18:3, 2 Kings 15:5, 2 Kings 18:18, Isaiah 22:15, 20-24, Matthew 16:15-17, Matthew 16:18-19, Luke 12:42, John 1:42, Revelation 3:7, Matthew 10:2, Mark 3:14-17, Mark 16:5-7, Luke 6:13-14, Acts 1:13,. (St. Peter's name is always listed 1st in the inner circle of the apostles, why?. He was not the oldest, and he was not the 1st when Jesus picked his disciples Peter's own brother was picked before him, so what is the reason?. While Judas Iscariot's name is always mentioned last in any list.) 2 Samuel 7:7, Psalm 78:70-72, Isaiah 44:28, Jeremiah 3:15, Ezekiel 37:24, Luke 22:31-32, John 21:15-17, Acts 5:15, Acts 5:29, Acts 12:5, Acts 12:11, 1 Corinthians 9:5. (Why is Peter always singled out as seperate from the other apostles?.) John 20:3-6, Luke 24:33-34, 1 Corinthians 15:4-6.

 

Where do you see the word pope (father) or people referring to Peter as pope(father) in anyone of those verses?

 

So first you want me to show you where the Bible teaches about giving Peter authority now you want to know where the Bible teaches about calling Holy leaders father. Well certainly I'll show you, here is some verses.
Acts 7:2, Romans 4:12, Romans 4:16-17, Romans 9:10, 1 Corinthians 4:15, Philippians 2:22, James 2:21.

There is more I could add but I will let you decide from those verses.

 

lol.................

 

I don't understand this response, tell me please what is so funny about these verses. You have avoided my questions and I have answered all of yours, and you laugh why?. If you think my answers or the verses I have provided are inadequate then tell me why, put forward an argument. lol is not a very good way of refuting an argument.

 

It’s funny that you link the literal biblical fathers of the people of the house of Israel to justify calling a leader of the Catholic Church the pope. So is the pope a biological descendant of those in the Catholic Church? How many generations down is he generation wise from you? And if you notice the fathers of the Nations of Israel are all dead; they were not alive when the term was being used….and that’s another LOL moment.

 

Question: Who are the "fathers of the Nations of Israel" in your view on the world? What have Jews to do with your problem that you are not able to accept anything what a Catholic could say to you?

http://youtu.be/D7zY3K9kNwA