The Catholic Church is a criminal organization...

The Catholic Church has worked to protect pedophile priests and cover up their crimes. Catholic officials have done this for years. With that said, the Catholic Church should be considered a criminal organization, since they are known to conspire to commit felonies, and tried under RICO law. This would mean that anyone associated with the church, who had prior knowledge of the cover ups, could be arrested and tried for aiding and abetting and other crimes associated with the cover ups. Even the Pope could be arrested under RICO.

 

Catholic Church is 'like the Mafia'

 

wouldn't that be great if Malta charged the pope and put him in jail..
it sure would send a powerful message..

 

Can't happen. He has diplomatic immunity.

 

Immunity can be striped from a diplomat in some cases.

 

It's extremely rare.

I'll guarantee you that no one's arresting the Pope.

 

The only way it would happen is if the catholic church was officially named a criminal organization under the RICO act......A member of a criminal orgization can't have act as a diplomat to america. He would lose his immunity automatically.

 

Well, we give special deference to religion so don't hold your breath waiting for justice to be served on these sickos.

 

Good luck getting a US Attorney to file a criminal complaint against the entire Catholic Church under RICO.

Never happen.

 

By the way, the Pope is not a "diplomat to America." He's the head of the Vatican State, a sovereign country and under the Vienna Convention he has diplomatic immunity.

 

Do you know why the most catholic churches have two towers?

http://youtu.be/9-7j8gVtCZY

 

This thread has been started before.

 

In the way you portray it, all churches are criminal. Churches fallow God's law, believing God will punish in the end those worthy, more harshly than any man made entity. There isn't a church on earth who would put a state's laws over the protection of their members, some over any human. The older the church the more serious this commitment. Governments are inherently flawed, and churches have had to save people from corrupt states time and time again throughout history. Yes, organized religion also has its flaws, and the state has had to save people from them. That is why it is so important to keep them separate. Options.

With all that said, certain deeds cannot go unpunished. While I will never agree with a general persecution, and/or (*)(*)(*)(*)ation of the religious personality, I would certainly support anyone aiding and abetting a harmer of children to be equally guilty of said wrong and deserving of equal punishment. Definitely a situation where the state is asleep at the wheel.

 

Well, there are a lot of victims. Ahem.

 

Should the Priests who have committed the crimes be charged? Yes.

Should the Catholic Church be charged a criminal organization? No.

 

Uhhh, if it quacks like a duck...

 

In order to charge the Catholic Church under RICO you'd have to prove intent to engage in a continuing criminal enterprise.

Where's the proof?

 

...then it might be a duck call.

 

Yeah, there are a lot of victims in the recent school abuse cases, but for some reason, atheists don't care about those.

Nor indeed are they claiming the education ministers of the various countries where these cases take place are part of criminal enterprises that should be broken up by ... Malta. And teachers don;t even have diplomatic immunity.

Nah, we should ignore the low hanging fruit in the fight against child abuse .... we'll because it just doen't fit the atheist world view. Children being abused outside religion? The three monkeys will do.

 

I agree as for the fervor of atheists on this subject. However, I would like to point out that a school system doesn't protect a sexual predator. They would get rid of a teacher for merely being accused. It is a career ruiner for them. The church does have a history of protecting pedophile priests. I have no zeal to combat the problem, as it is a Catholic problem, Catholics continue to send their kids to church, so to be worried is akin to trying to help an abused spouse who keeps going back. Disheartening, but a waste of time.

 

Agh no, you cannot fire a teacher merely on an accusation. And if we've been watching say ... Penn State, you know that organizations that cover up trouble some behavior is not exclusive to the Catholic Church.

The fixation on the Catholic church from a few atheists (I am hardly surprised to see the same atheists making the exact same quaked claims) only to be rebuted with the same objective standards that separate criminal behavior from individuals and organizations .... and then come back a week or two later and start all over again.

Its not rational in the slightest, and its clearly about rubbing someone's face in a failure. Just remember, the founder of NAMBLA are atheists - but for some reason, atheists don;t seem to keen on demanding that organization, which actively preaches the rape of young boys, be broken up.

Perhaps if it were ALWAYS the exact same atheists posters making the exact same case, or lack thereof, against the Catholic Church it wouldn't be so redundant and leave so many people thinking that the criticism is simply ideological zealotry at this point.

After all, the same posters like to remind us about the Crusades - because all Christians alive today are prone to Crusades ... which haven't happened in centuries .... Stalin's purges? North Korean ... antics? It just always seems a few atheists seem only able to define themselves by finding fault in something else, no matter how frivilous or hypocritical.

Because we ALL know that ALL Catholics are child molesters, right? Right.

How about we remind the atheists, the same ones, again, that we have a little something called a Constitution. In that document we have something called ... the judicial branch. So why not ask them to take a look and hold those whom they can hold accountable, accountable for it ... without the witch hunt? Without condemning the faith over a billion people, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with the criminal behavior at issue here.

Just like most of Penn State had no idea what the hell was going on. Best to close down the entire University just to on the safe side though. if not? Well, clearly, it'd be best to remind this forum how every Penn State ... attendant past, present, and future is a card carrying supporter of child abuse ... or NAMBLA. Whichever.

The funny thing is, Christians seem to want to learn the lessons of things like the Salem Witch Trials .... atheists that routinely participate in the same acccusations devoid of reason? Well, they seem hell bent on recreating them.

Perhaps there is indeed something to that last sentence there.

 

Mostly redacted or shredded by cardinals like that piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) Mahoney in Los Angeles. But it's clear that church leadership knew they had a problem on their hands and it is abundantly clear that they--like anyone else in charge of a large institution--decided to save face and try to sweep it under the rug rather than do the right thing. All while enabling and protecting pedophiles in their midst. As a product of Catholic schools myself, none of this surprises me in the least. In fact, when the news stories first surfaced my initial thought was "took them long enough..."

 

How cute.

 

Then I guess it's safe to say that no other religion has pedophiles. It makes sense. Or could it mean they haven't been found yet?

So let's condemn them all.

 

Done and done.