Should Australians Return the Land to the Native People and Return to the UK?

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Should Australians Return the Land to the Native People and Return to the UK?:



    I say yes.

    Australians are a progressive people and clearly put justice ahead of economic concerns.

    They should right the wrongs of the past and become an example of rolling back the wrongs of British Imperial policies.

    Really, it's a moral no-brainer, if you think about it.

    P.S.: same question to our New Zealander friends.


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  2. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    I say um no. Because most Australians there today were born there and thus ARE native people. To argue otherwise makes the preposterous argument that everyone not of Native American ancestry should get out of North America and go back to Europe or Africa or Latin America too. :rolleyes:

    Try telling that one to over half of L.A. or N.Y. or better yet hahahahaha if you don't like that argument.

    By that reasoning then Barack Obama himself has no business as President, as he has no business in this nation to start with, as well he is clearly NOT of Native North American descent..

    If such liberal "white angst" clap trap were ever taken seriously, let alone actually enacted, I could just see the headlines now...and oh yeah the liberal (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about it too.
     
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    Let's all leave everywhere and go back to the Rift Valley. It'll be a bit crowded but what the hell.
     
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    Should USA return the land to the native people and go back to Great Britain?

    Or USA is different from Australia. How many nonsense to read.
     
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    These people support the same nonsense in Israel so they should just get up and leave the US since the land clearly belonged to the Native Americans.
     
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    Knowing a little about DonGlock i can tell he's being sarcastic (right Don?) towards many Aussies from this forum that suggest or suggested that wrong doings such as land theft from the natives done by the nowadays Americans (and or westerners/whites) should be corrected. He is now asking you do to the same, which you don't seem to be taking very well. Perhaps not making the suggestion in the first place would've been wiser.

    Then again my interpretation could be wrong, if thats the case,...yeah whatever.
     
  7. lizarddust

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    Sarcasm or not, DonGlock26 knows little about Australian what's been happening in Australia the last 20 years or so.

    1. Thanks to Mabo, the indigenous people of Australia have be recognised an the traditional carers of the land,, in the past, the present and the future.

    2. The Australian government under Kevin Rudd has said sorry for all the wrong doings by Europeans to the Aboriginal people.
     
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    You are right. They can dish it out, but they can not take it.
     
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    Apparently some people on this site are immune to sarcasm.

    Anyway, would the Australians have to return directly back to the jails that they came from, or could they get some sort of parole?
     
  10. Diuretic

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    Sarcasm? It has its place but is that place a whole opening post? It would have been better to frame it within a broader context. e.g.

    Australians on PF seem to criticise the United States for its historical and contemporary treatment of its indigenous peoples. But Australians should realise that their history isn't all that clean when it comes to dealing with indigenous people. If they're so critical of the US on this then why don't they up and leave their continent, return it to its indigenous people and go back to where they all came from?

    Sarcasm - off.
     
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    Your New Zealand "friends" have fallen over backwards to compensate Maori for past losses. The bill is heading for $3 billion.

    Unfortunately it has done little in the way of improving Maori society. It has its own elites that have milked our largesse for their own exclusive benefit. Ordinary Maori are still left to be a burden on society at large.

    Then there's the really crazy stuff. Not content with payouts in land and cash, Maori have laid claims to (1) airwaves, (2) airspace, (3) the foreshores and seabeds surrounding NZ, and (4) the water that flows over the land.

    They are probably dreaming up new claims as we speak.

    Meanwhile, they are the worst-performing section of society.
     
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    Autralia was only sparsely populated by the aboriginees.

    The same thing with America. There are now more hispanics within Los Angeles County (which is in California) than there were native Americans living in the present day countries of the USA and Canada combined before the eruopeans came. There are now far many more hispanics than there ever were native americans.

    I think the aboriginees should be granted much greater tribal lands, and not just the undesirable lands that they have now. And the whites relocated into other parts of the continent.
     
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    Return them to the UK ?
    We still need gardeners and cleaners .
    But I doubt they would be granted entry because of the requirement to obtain sufficient marks in the entry test .
    And now you have to speak English to a defined level .
    I canot see any Ozzers overcoming these tough barriers .
     
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    Another dumb comment from you!

    Should the American return the land to the Indians?

    DUH!
     
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    They would be free to return to their ancestral homes. There are no blood crimes anymore, unless you are a white American.


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    All Aussie returning to England will have many advantages to Britain. One notable one would be the IQ of the British people will rise significantly, also the poor diet and dental hygiene of Brits will be improved.

    One disadvantage I see for the British people is that the Brits won't be able to bow in awe as the Australian Test Cricket team takes the field.

    ;) ;) ;)
     
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    You just have to leave. You can't steal their land and then throw glass beads at them.

    Are you saying that NZ is only worth 3 bill?


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    Do you live on stolen land?

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    Maybe if you hadn't stolen the land from them and raped their ancestors, it wouldn't be an issue...
     
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    The Maori were feuding cannibalistic savages who could carve before the Europeans arrived and agreed to run the place with them.

    They have profited from the civilising influences and economic development the Europeans brought. That they have failed dismally to advance themselves as the rest of society has done is largely down to them.

    The $3 billion is on top of all the other benefits they have received from their treaty with Europeans - who confiscated only a fraction of their land after the Waikato (skirmishes) War in 1863/64 while you guys were tearing one another's heads off and destroying the economy of the Southern states.
     
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    Try not to teach me my history when you have so little idea of your own history and even less of mine.

    Shared ignorance is still ignorance.
     
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    Can't you just see the Australian Aborigines designing, planning and building the Sydney Opera House.....LMAO..
     
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    I'm from Australia and this view is frankly stupid. We have 21 million people living here, can you even comprehend the refugee crisis if even half that many people were displaced - and trust me, England can not just agree to accept millions of migrants considering its land mass and economy. I don't think any country could survive while accepting that many people in a short space of time.
    This would probably be the most ridiculous mass-event in the whole of human history. What, people who've been living here for generations are just going to decide to leave their homes and jobs for no reason? How old are you? I'm 15 and I realize how dumb this is.
    And yes, it WOULD be for no reason because the aboriginal people do not want to own the land. They never owned the land the way we see it, it's more like the land owns them. They didn't tend to settle down and live in one area, they do not have the mentality that you're naively assuming they do. You think people should be discriminated against and kicked out of the country they were born in because of their race? We've already recognized their spiritual connection and history with the land.
     
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    It's not my fault you live on stolen land.
     
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    Did a Dane do a better job? ;)
     

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