We wish the Kurdish People Independence NOW!

Yes of Course We have NO Restrictions on Mix-marriages.In Turkey we have so many mix-marriages.
There are about 15-20 Millions Kurds in Turkey and half of(maybe even more than half) live in Western Part of mixed with Turks and other ethnic groups.

Dear Alan
I just wanted to mention some geographies/lands where Kurds live.For Example I said Iranian Kurds(Not Persian Kurds)
Cos Iran is a geographical name
For Example I'm a Anatolian Turk....
I havent said Turkish-Kurd or something like that....
I dont know ıf there is any other way to call it.There are some Kurds who live in Syria(a geography name)

How should I call it? I call them Syrian Kurds....NOt Arabic-Kurds or something else...

 

" Kurds" are not a nation - its a collection of tribes , not all speaking the same language eetc.etc
urban kurds are very different from country tribal peasants .Urban Kurds have no interest in identifying with rural, even peasant-class, Kurds. Rival tribes competing for power and control over a particular region.


my favourite is Lemon Curd.

super zingy yoghurt.

http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/search.do?keywords=lemon+curd+&x=24&y=12&searchType=recipes :

 

why kurds need their land to separate from artificial borders of turkey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPyVjV3xzMY&feature=player_embedded#!

 

You are an Arabist who opposes all other groups in the Middle East whether they be Assyrian Christians, Egyptian Copts, Kurds and Israelis. As such your views on this matter can be dismissed as biased.

 

Hang in there Alan... Independence is on the offing... The world has already paid attention to your and your people's plight... may your wishes come through as early as possible.

 

thank you dear, but i am seeing history repeat itself, US is selling Maliki F16s and M1s , what do kurds have to protect against this newly created Shiite dictator !!! some old T-55s and AK47s is not going to protect kurds and the Kurdistan government in KRG.

Kurds need F16s Apaches, Abraham tanks and other advanced weapons but US will never sell kurds these weapons bcoz if the puppet turkey.

 

Is that so ? then you must be either be a ZioNazi Jew or just another of their tools (fools ).

I've frankly never thought of myself as an "arabist " but How can my statement of some facts abt kurds , make me , in yr opinion , into an "Arabist " ?

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As I've previously tried to tell , kurds should cease their perstence in antagonizing their neighours and rather learn to live in peace /making friends instead of enemies.

Take it from me, America/Europe + the rest of the world , dont care a fuk abt kurds , your only salvation is, to make peace with your immediate neighours. Respect your neighbours and they'll respect you.


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What a load of DRECK - absolute rubbish. The "world " has many more other more important matters of concern.

As I've said , the Kurds would be better off , if they learnt to live in peace with their neighbours, its a matter of give + take , no one else cares a fuk abt Kurds/Palestinians, Yezidis/Turkomen etc.., , everyone else have their own problems.


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All of your positions line up in one direction. You always advocate for Arabs. You oppose anyone who fights Arabs. Your consistency makes you a predictable Arabist.

Btw, victory to the Kurds...defeat to their enemies. Allahu Akbar.

 

You do not seem to be a very nice person in addition to the fact that you do not know the history of your country.

Scotland for all intended purpose has a population of 5,2 Million... You are even smaller than my country Israel which has a population of 7 Millions..

The population of the Kurds is a combined total of about 30 million (lower estimate) and 35 Million (higher estimate)... The Kurds for your education, are the largest stateless people in the world (ironically) thanks to the British who ignored them in 1917 when Allenby conquered Jerusalem and Damascus.

To come here with a chip on your shoulder promoting what is dear to you (the Arabs) is very laudatory, other people want 'INDEPENDENCE' from the Arab conquerors of the seventh Century AD.... Please do everyone here a favor read some history of the Middle East and do not try to pop out like a sore thumb when in propinquity with learned people.

 

i dont take sh1t from a facist.

you are not the speaker of the world.

kurds are now in control of their 2 parts (iraqi kurdistan and syrian kurdistan) two more parts to go, one in iran the last in turkey.

iranian kurdistan is easy target once US and Israel attack iran eastern kurdistan will be liberated the kurdish parties from iran are organising themselves for the aftermath, like syria.

your living in the 1920s when kurds were not as nationalist as today and thought living with muslim arabs turks and persians will give them equal freedom but we learned the hard way , we gave Halabja genocide, Anfal campaign and Dersim denocide, we are no longer interested in living with these so called muslims, kurds want their land to be free and self-rule, they benefit from its wealth and resourse not those muslim nations stealing it and buy weapons to kill kurds with.

kurds have learned the hard way we are now wiser than we were 90 years ago, kurds want a state of their own, they are not asking for land they already form majority on their ancestral land.

Arnold looking at the map of "greater Kurdistan"

 

More racist attacks on Kurds




NEWSDESK, -- Attacks on the Kurds have increased in Turkey following the racist remarks made by Turkey Foreign Minister in which he regarded attacks against the Kurds as ordinary and demanded increase in such attacks.

Neqim Shadin Turkey’s Foreign Minister said attacks on Kurds are something normal that should be increased. The Kurdish residents of Skarya were subject to racist attack following such a remark.

It was reported that a group of six Turks attacked a Kurdish family yesterday and beaten a member of their family in front of everyone.

In the meantime hundreds of Turks chanted racist and anti-Kurdish slogans and attacked the Kurds on their way. It is reported that 18 Kurds were injured in the attacks.

More racist attacks on Kurds


KURDS HAVE HAD ENUFF OF RACIST FROM TURKS THEY WANT OUT, THAT IS IT

 

Millions of Kurds, observing the meeting of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) in Tehran last week, must have thought: "What about us? What about our non-aligned nation to be? We should be there. Maybe next time..."

It may be just possible that Kurds - which themselves admit their notoriety for internal squabble - are finally getting their act together; after all, history may be dictating, roughly a century after World War I and its aftermath, which dealt a big blow to Kurds. This is the last chance for the emergence of a Greater Kurdistan.

After the two Syrian Kurdish parties made a deal - sealed by Iraqi Kurdistan President Masoud Barzani - to jointly run northeast Syria, Kurdish parties in Iran are also coming together.

Meanwhile, Ankara behaves like a bunch of headless chickens.

Kurds are carefully paying attention to how Ankara decided to boycott NAM - even though Turkish President Abdullah Gul was personally invited by Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Egypt's President Mohammed Morsi proposed a Syria contact group - Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran - to try to solve the Syrian tragedy.

This means that Egypt - under a Muslim Brotherhood president - privileges mediation for a civil war inside a fellow Arab country, while Turkey sticks to a colour-blind regime change strategy, which would only be possible with a NATO no-fly zone (it won't happen).

So the pressing question for the Kurds becomes how to profit from Ankara's each and every move.

And the winner is... Israel

Not even Turkish public opinion knows what exactly are the contours of Ankara's policy for Syria - apart from regime change. President Gul claims that Damascus weaponises PKK guerrillas (there's absolutely no evidence), and that would be a casus belli.

Damascus for its part does not want a war with Turkey.

Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu - he of the defunct "zero problems with our neighbours" doctrine - is still toeing the line that the country could not accept more than 100,000 Syrian refugees (there are already 70,000 and counting); in this case, some fuzzy "safe haven" would have to be installed in Syrian territory. This Thursday, Ankara will press the complexities of the refugee crisis at a ministerial-level meeting at the UN.

Ankara has insistently accused both Damascus and Tehran of supporting PKK guerrillas active in Anatolia and the porous border areas. Yet at the same time, Ankara has developed a quite secretive narrative; Turkey, once again, is aligned with Israel's strategy (the Mavi Marmara incident is now water under the bridge).
Talk to Al Jazeera -
Massoud Barzani: Flying the Kurdish flag

Tel Aviv avidly bets on Ankara becoming the hegemonic regional power in the - still hazy - event of a post-Assad Syria. As Israel has been deeply infiltrated in Iraqi Kurdistan for years, with very good connections - the Mossad uses it as an operational base against Syria and Iran - this will be manipulated as a bargaining chip to seduce Ankara.

Meanwhile, in Syria, the red, green and yellow Kurdish flag is now flying in places like Girke Lege - only 35 kilometres from the Iraqi border and only 15 kilometres from the Turkish border. Over 3 million Syrian Kurds now see an ideal opening to revert the official Ba'ath Party Arabisation policy.

The Kurdish PYD (Democratic Union Party) President Salah Muslim vehemently denies that there was a tacit agreement with the Bashar al-Assad government. But in fact there was; as long as Syrian Kurds don't attack Damascus forces, they can do whatever they want in Western/Syrian Kurdistan, which by now is assuming the contours of a an autonomous region.

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, by the way, has already delivered the message to Ankara; even in a post-Assad Syria, this should be seen as a fact on the ground. And it happens to dovetail with Israel's charm offensive among Kurds - emphasising what would be their common agenda.

So what can Ankara do? Invade? Kurdish blowback is bound to be devastating.

Despite official rumblings, Turkish options for invading Western/Syrian Kurdistan are not exactly stellar. The Turkish army's morale is low - after the purge of several ranking Kemalists. Over 60 generals are in jail, accused of plotting a coup - and lower-ranking officials may even try it again. Alevis and Kurdish conscripts will refuse to fight an AKP-incited war. And the Turkish economy - not to mention tourism - will inevitably go down the drain.

Is there a leader in the house?

One can imagine whether Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) President Barzani's political scheming will be enough for him to embrace the Angel of History, and rise to the occasion.

He certainly sees a Greater Kurdistan independent from Arabs, Persians and Turks. But for that to happen in a grand scale he would have to conduct himself as a unifier - not only sharing power inside Iraqi Kurdistan but also managing conflicting Kurdish aspirations in Syria, Iran and Turkey. This implies a visionary streak plus tremendous diplomatic skills.

What's certain is that Washington and Tel Aviv are on board; this implies that Brussels sooner or later will follow. BRICS members Russia and China are not exactly against it. There are two possibilities here. A Greater Kurdistan forged as a model for the Middle East - in terms of a secular, dynamic, progressive entity respectful of religious minorities. Or yet another Western stooge.

A major geopolitical volcano is erupting. Ankara certainly has not analysed the blowback of weaponising Syrian Sunnis just for the weapons to find their way back into Turkey to be used by the PKK against Ankara itself.

This anti-imperialist analysis may be very useful to understand the Kurdish dynamic. But there's still much more to it.

Jeremy Salt, professor of History and Politics of the Middle East at Bilkent University, Ankara, and author of The Unmaking of the Middle East, in a conversation with La Stampa's world news editor Claudio Gallo, neatly summarised it:

"In 1918 the imperial powers divided the Middle East in a certain way that suited their interests at the time. They are now remapping it again - and again to suit their interests. It is not coincidental that this programme dovetails with Israel's own long-term strategic planning. Russia and China are fully aware of what is going on, which is why the present situation can be seen as a 21st century extension of the 'Eastern question' or of the 'Great Game' between Russia and Britain."

Make no mistake; each day makes it more likely that an unintended - or rather intended - consequence of this Great Game remix will be the emergence of Greater Kurdistan.

Pepe Escobar is the roving correspondent for Asia Times. His latest book is named Obama Does Globalistan (Nimble Books, 2009).

The views expressed in this article are the author's own and do not necessarily reflect Al Jazeera's editorial policy.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/08/2012828102534412824.html

 

Throughout History for more than 1000 years(maybe even more)Turks and Kurds have lived together in the same cities,in the same districts,in the same apartments.....Such Attacks almost NEVER happened other than some exceptions which JUST occured at the beginning of 20.th Century...Such as Dersim....

Especially in last 50 years Kurds moved to Western Cities of Turkey to get a job for life, like many Turks have done....
I have NEVER EVER heard such an attack until last ten years.
In Last Ten Years maybe 10 times such attacks happened NOT MORE than ten and in all cases Extremist Racist Turks or Kurds were at the scene......Provocators.

Today approxmately 10 Million Kurds live in Western part of Turkey mixed with Turks IF Extremist Racist dont spoil it we have no problem with Kurs and we can live together until Judgement Day...

If you consider this figures which I mentioned above such an attack is nothing and such things (unfortunately) may happen all over world......

 

Unfortunately Arnold and Medvedev only can only look such a map, nothing is their business there.

Also If you beleive such a map, you should be a day dreamer. They should draw a better map in paint, for example you can extend Armenia to Ararat (Van) which has never been a Kurdish city. Kurds moved there after Turks and Kurds forced Armenians to move from there. or Hatay (Antakya) where was a Arap City Turkey took it from Syria with Agreement and Still Arabs and Turks are majority or Elazig where Nationalist Turks are more than %50 of the population and Kurds are not more than %5, %10.

Anyway, There are some cities Kurds are majority and actually Kurds were living there as majority for centuries. I am sure untill Turkey occupied by some other countries Turkey will not able to negotiate to give a land. There could be a region where Kurds could live totaly with their identity under Turkey. But such a map;

1) not more than a dream,
2) not a fair map too.

You who blame Turks to make genoside in Ararat, how do you feel to put this city in you map? If you beleive this kind of justice I am sorry but there is not more then 2-3 cities in anatolia Kurds ever lived as mojority and it is called as Kurdistan. As in the title I wish all peoples to live in freedom. But this kind of Maps just increase the nationalism in Turkey.

 

Look at it this way... Kurdistan will be independent in the next five years.

They are rich they have oil, they have money and they can buy armaments, they have an army and they will be able to defend themselves.

Long live Independent Kurdistan!

 

It could be, or i couldn't be, time will show it.

But sure it will not be like in this map.

I don't know what happens in Syria and Irak but in Turkey and Iran it seem it is not possible such a Kurdistan for very very long time.
I invite you to be realistic. You don't mix with your wishes the realities.

It is possible that Turkey will be kicked out from NATO, Turkey and Iran will be occupied and they will collapsed. Or 2 meteors will fall down over Turkey and Iran.

 

BREAKING: HPG attacked multiple military targets simultaneously. Clashes are still going on. Helicopters bombing around city #TwitterKurds

Police & Army apartments in Elkê (Şirnex) were attacked with RPGs and light arms tonight. Clashes continue.

#TwitterKurds Electricity was cut off in Elkê (Beytussebap) So, @Messopotamia cannot tweets anymore. There's no other tweet from there.

Kurds says "enough is enough" in #Beytussebap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdJoHx4amM8&feature=youtu.be

 

Haydar

time will come kurds and turks will sit and say "lets draw the borders between our states".

 

Is that so ? You can see the future , can you ? Is that what you saw in yr crystal ball ?


For now any self governing automous Kurdiland will be land locked /totally ISOLATED , , so how the fook will they get their oil to market , airfreighted it ? All import/export communications with the rest of the world will have to be with permission from their neighbours.

Its called they ' d be painting themselves into a corner. fukt -up .


tata.

 

Nore are you , wot ? LOL

"greater kurdistan " Its just a drawing , a figment of some nutters wishfull thinking .

It wont happen not in yr lifetime . you'll more likely see a pig flying before a Greater Turdistan.


come back and tell when its real . Meanwhile , dream on. HAHAHAHA

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The Kurdish people have been doing this the right way. They have bought up the majority of the land in their area. They have developed a good infrastructure and even take care of their own security in parts of it. The Kurdish people travel throughout their region with no regard for the various national borders involved. Effectively they already have their own nation. They are just waiting for the right opportunity to make it official.

 

no need for dreaming 2 kurdistan parts are now FREE, one more soon after iran is attack, so it seems your the dreamer not kurds , .

unlike the lost guy "mar low" you are aware of the situation on the ground

anyways Turkey complains of assimilation of Turkish IMIGRANTS in EUROPE. Yet, tries assimilating Kurds who are NATIVE to Kurdistan.ahaha turks are jokes.